Male Viera... Unsubbing for now.

[Meril]

Don't let the door hit you on the way out.

[Izanagi_Fiaresu]

Thing is? The Niche that would be filled by Male Viera is already filled by the Male Miqo'te. ANd the Niche that Female Ronso would have filled? Is filled by Female Roe

[xbahax92]

Thing is? The Niche that would be filled by Male Viera is already filled by the Male Miqo'te. ANd the Niche that Female Ronso would have filled? Is filled by Female Roe

Niche for Male Hrothgar is in fact also filled by Roe's, as female Viera is by female Miqote. In this case they shouldnt add any new race since every new race will be just a copy/paste thing.

[ErryK]

Niche for Male Hrothgar is in fact also filled by Roe's, as female Viera is by female Miqote. In this case they shouldnt add any new race since every new race will be just a copy/paste thing.

Let's all just be grey blobs.

[Izanagi_Fiaresu]

Thats not accurate. Viera are more Amazonian while Miqos aren't that Amazonian. Males roes are more humanoid..so really no comparison there

[Ramzal]

I don’t mean to be insulting but you’re coming off as an entitled person right now. You don’t get what you want in life at all times and you enjoyed it before they were confirmed. Just play the game and have fun.

[manickitty]

I don’t mean to be insulting but you’re coming off as an entitled person right now. You don’t get what you want in life at all times and you enjoyed it before they were confirmed. Just play the game and have fun.

Enough with this rhetoric, please. People have a right to give feedback on the game they pay for. Unsubbing is a valid form of feedback. Remember voting with your wallet? This is that. Claiming that people are 'entitled' is a lazy and disingenuous argument.

[Fyce]

Unsubbing is a valid form of feedback.

It's actually the worst type of "feedback". It just shows that you are a volatile player that can quit the game on a whim. You stop being a customer and still expect to be treated as one. Doesn't really work like that. If you quit the game because you didn't get a race+gender combo, it means that everything else the game has to offer isn't enough to keep you in. Showing an enormous lack of interest with the product as a whole isn't really a smart move to get your point across.

Also, nothing can prove that these people would ever return, even if their wishes get fulfilled at one point, -and even if they do return- that they'd keep playing the game, given how volatile they are. As I said just above, if their primary incentive to play a game is to be a bunnyboy, then it's legitimate to question why are they even playing the game in the first place, and if they will actually stay or just quit a few weeks after for whatever reason because of a clear lack of actual attachment to the game itself.

It's obvious why a company wouldn't prioritize these people who aren't even playing anymore. Veteran players who stay, and potential new players are vastly more important. The ones who can come and go without thinking twice about it, not so much.
Besides, if SE had to listen to every niche saying "we won't sub if you don't do this and that", then it'd be an open door to pretty much anything. And we really don't need the game to be designed around people who show how fast they can quit.

Losing customers like that is only ever effective when it's massive due to a general consensus on core issues. Not when it's a tiny niche. Especially when these niches already showed that the threats of leaving the game are very often void of any actual action.

Tl;dr: Complaining as a customer is much more effective than saying "if you do what I want, maybe I'll come back and be a customer again".

[BillyKaplan]

It just shows that you are a volatile player that can quit the game on a whim.

i mean, yeah? It's a game. I didn't marry it.

You stop being a customer and still expect to be treated as one.

"I used to be a customer, and this is why I'm leaving. This is why others might leave. This is, potentially, also what you need to do to get my money again"
It's say it's very valuable feedback to a company.

Showing an enormous lack of interest with the product as a whole isn't really a smart move to get your point across.

It's a theme park MMO. No one is expected to care about every single thing.

Veteran players who stay

They're losing veterans over this too. People who have stayed for literal years. And, might I add, Veterans who were here the last time they genderlocked races, and veterans who fought against the genderlocks last time.
This is SE showing them they learned nothing of past mistakes.

[Mizunoko]

It's actually the worst type of "feedback". It just shows that you are a volatile player that can quit the game on a whim. You stop being a customer and still expect to be treated as one. Doesn't really work like that. If you quit the game because you didn't get a race+gender combo, it means that everything else the game has to offer isn't enough to keep you in. Showing an enormous lack of interest with the product as a whole isn't really a smart move to get your point across.

Also, nothing can prove that these people would ever return, even if their wishes get fulfilled at one point, -and even if they do return- that they'd keep playing the game, given how volatile they are. As I said just above, if their primary incentive to play a game is to be a bunnyboy, then it's legitimate to question why are they even playing the game in the first place, and if they will actually stay or just quit a few weeks after for whatever reason because of a clear lack of actual attachment to the game itself.

It's obvious why a company wouldn't prioritize these people who aren't even playing anymore. Veteran players who stay, and potential new players are vastly more important. The ones who can come and go without thinking twice about it, not so much.
Besides, if SE had to listen to every niche saying "we won't sub if you don't do this and that", then it'd be an open door to pretty much anything. And we really don't need the game to be designed around people who show how fast they can quit.

Losing customers like that is only ever effective when it's massive due to a general consensus on core issues. Not when it's a tiny niche. Especially when these niches already showed that the threats of leaving the game are very often void of any actual action.

Tl;dr: Complaining as a customer is much more effective than saying "if you do what I want, maybe I'll come back and be a customer again".

100% agree with you. Everything you said hits the nail right on the head.