Male Viera... Unsubbing for now.

[Radacci]

Isnt the problem that ppl have been shouting for viera (which is lore-wise an all females race) and now complaining there's no Male viera, knowing from the beginning, there wouldn't be any?
It's like shouting for blu for years, then you get it, knowing ffxi version wouldn't fit into xiv, then being upset it wasnt like Xi.
If ppl are upset about gender locking, then why shout for viera, for years?... Knowing it's female-only race; it's like you're asking to be upset.
However, i heard something interesting on a yt clip, since there's other races on other reflections of the source, there could be male viera there, so they could always find a reason to add them, and many more. Ofc they won't, cause it's to much work.

[Imuka]

Isnt the problem that ppl have been shouting for viera (which is lore-wise an all females race) and now complaining there's no Male viera, knowing from the beginning, there wouldn't be any?
It's like shouting for blu for years, then you get it, knowing ffxi version wouldn't fit into xiv, then being upset it wasnt like Xi.
If ppl are upset about gender locking, then why shout for viera, for years?... Knowing it's female-only race; it's like you're asking to be upset.
However, i heard something interesting on a yt clip, since there's other races on other reflections of the source, there could be male viera there, so they could always find a reason to add them, and many more. Ofc they won't, cause it's to much work.

There are two Points that cause this outrage here:
A) after the male Miqote, they said that they would never genderlock a Race ever again...just to show that this was a lie back then.
B) showing Concept Art for male Viera at a Fan Festival and then say "Nah, they are genderlocked to only female.".

They showed the Pictures of male Viera and let the Bloggers and Youtubers fire the ShB Hype Train for I think it was 3 Months.
Combine those things and you literally ask for a Shitstorm.

And because of the Miqote Story, they hoped that the Devs would take the opportunity to be at least a little creative and add male Viera.
They hoped, that the Devs would remember the male Miqoute Story and say "Okay, if we add them, we do both sexes not just female and be creative here.".

Also, we have the Hrothgar, who are basicly FF14 Ronsos...and they are only male because...I have no clue. There were female Ronsos in FF10.
So they even took a Race with both Sexes and made it a one Sex Race.

In the end, people are dissapointed that FF14 for the past two years is moving backwards in time, in the history of MMO Gamedesign.

[VillainQueen]

Isnt the problem that ppl have been shouting for viera (which is lore-wise an all females race) and now complaining there's no Male viera, knowing from the beginning, there wouldn't be any?
It's like shouting for blu for years, then you get it, knowing ffxi version wouldn't fit into xiv, then being upset it wasnt like Xi.
If ppl are upset about gender locking, then why shout for viera, for years?... Knowing it's female-only race; it's like you're asking to be upset.
However, i heard something interesting on a yt clip, since there's other races on other reflections of the source, there could be male viera there, so they could always find a reason to add them, and many more. Ofc they won't, cause it's to much work.

Because it's not technical a female only race? That wouldn't even be possible biological speaking. But they made enough teases and comments that made people believe they are going to happen. It's not our fault. If you dangle a carrot in front of a horse just to take it away, don't be surprised that the horse kicks you.

[Radacci]

There are two Points that cause this outrage here:
A) after the male Miqote, they said that they would never genderlock a Race ever again...just to show that this was a lie back then.
B) showing Concept Art for male Viera at a Fan Festival and then say "Nah, they are genderlocked to only female.".

They showed the Pictures of male Viera and let the Bloggers and Youtubers fire the ShB Hype Train for I think it was 3 Months.
Combine those things and you literally ask for a Shitstorm.

And because of the Miqote Story, they hoped that the Devs would take the opportunity to be at least a little creative and add male Viera.
They hoped, that the Devs would remember the male Miqoute Story and say "Okay, if we add them, we do both sexes not just female and be creative here.".

Also, we have the Hrothgar, who are basicly FF14 Ronsos...and they are only male because...I have no clue. There were female Ronsos in FF10.
So they even took a Race with both Sexes and made it a one Sex Race.

In the end, people are dissapointed that FF14 for the past two years is moving backwards in time, in the history of MMO Gamedesign.

I'm sure they weren't planning to add Viera, but because of massive support, they decided to do it - so it wasn't technically a lie - the lore is what it is, so if people shout for a lore-wise-gender-locked race, then that's on the community, not the devs.
Well the outrage would have been even greater, if they added fe/male Hrothgar but not Viera.
Hrothgar was just added because there was no plans to add male Viera. Well i do recall they were making concept art, but Yoshi also said it felt awkward, so they had no real plans to add it - it's just that ppl see concept art, and then everything is set in stone as an unbreaking promise; it was "just" concept art though, so they were trying to be creative, but decided against it, for whatever reason.

Because it's not technical a female only race? That wouldn't even be possible biological speaking. But they made enough teases and comments that made people believe they are going to happen. It's not our fault. If you dangle a carrot in front of a horse just to take it away, don't be surprised that the horse kicks you.

well, if you look at the angler fish, the male is only a fraction the size of the females. they attatch themselves to the female, then fuse with her, and die.
So maybe male viera are tiny little bunnies, that attatch themselves to the hip of the females, then die? wouldn't be so fun to play as a tiny minion, would it?
I get it that it feels like dangling a carrot, but as i said above, it was "just" concept art, not a promise; If i recall, Yoshi even specified that they decided against male viera, when they showed concept art.

[Andavar]

Hrothgar was just added because there was no plans to add male Viera. Well i do recall they were making concept art, but Yoshi also said it felt awkward, so they had no real plans to add it - it's just that ppl see concept art, and then everything is set in stone as an unbreaking promise; it was "just" concept art though, so they were trying to be creative, but decided against it, for whatever reason.

Your time frame is messed up. The awkward comment came in 2013, THEN male artwork in 2015. Leaving it on that and the past promise to not gender lock again, many people are completely blindsided by this.

The devs have been content to let this speculation/hype stew until now. They could have mentioned it earlier and saved some face, or even come out and explained if these steps were taken to maximize resources for the expansion with the other genders following. They have not done so.

[Imuka]

it's just that ppl see concept art, and then everything is set in stone as an unbreaking promise; it was "just" concept art though, so they were trying to be creative, but decided against it, for whatever reason.

To quote myself from another Thread.

Because everybody who is blessed with common sense and some super Basic knowledge about Marketing knows "Don't ever show what you can't deliver.".
If you can't deliver something just say that you don't deliver it, don't show Concept Art and let the rumor spread like a Wildfire for several weeks.

[Rastaban]

ok guys i want a new emote for SHB pls add disappointed emote, I want to show my feelings the whole time im online XD

[DBriggs304]

What a silly reason to unsubscribe.
Stop being overdramatic.

[Anzaman]

What a silly reason to unsubscribe.
Stop being overdramatic.

It's funny how people probably would've just kept playing happily had they decided not to add any new races after Au Ra.

[BillyKaplan]

It's funny how people probably would've just kept playing happily had they decided not to add any new races after Au Ra.

Sometimes it's smarter to maintain a status quo. But to a lot of us, disappointments have been piling up and this was the last straw. It's really not that hard a concept.