Page 23 of 40 FirstFirst ... 13 21 22 23 24 25 33 ... LastLast
Results 221 to 230 of 443

Hybrid View

  1. #1
    Player
    Zanarkand-Ronso's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2019
    Posts
    4,168
    Character
    Johanna Yevon
    World
    Adamantoise
    Main Class
    White Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Sheriyana View Post
    It's utterly baffling to me that there are a lot of you laughing and making fun of people who are upset about this. "This is nothing new, there's plenty of MMOs with gender locked races". Yeah, so what? In case you didn't know, this is Final Fantasy XIV, gender locked races haven't been a thing since 1.0 and for good reason. Why are you so against giving people more options? How does it hurt you if there's male Viera?

    I know there's a lot of hyperbole going around, and that tends to happen when a company makes decisions that make no sense like these. I personally won't unsub over it but my faith in this game has been shaken once again, severely diminishing my excitement for Shadowbringers. I totally respect anyone who feels like they don't want to support SE with this happening. People are allowed to voice their opinion and it's their right as a customer to stop supporting a product they're not happy with. And to the people saying it's ridiculous to get upset over cosmetics, ever heard of the phrase "glamour is endgame"? Cosmetics are one of the most important parts when it comes to any online game, you want your character to stand out and for it to look exactly like you want it to. From MMOs to even basic online shooters, the whole reward systems are based around skins and cosmetic customization.

    I want to say it again since I don't think it can be stressed enough, why are you advocating for less content, for less options?
    Im more laughing that people are threatening to unsub, or are just flat out unsubbing over a Gender of a race...that Lorewise, is pretty secluded and nonexistent in all FF lore from the getgo. People are mad that they can't get what they want, even if it wouldn't make sense for it to happen.
    Assuming everyone who is upset is from the West.....it just shows how bad Gender Politics are that people are mad at a Japanese game over a western issue.

    If you enjoy this game, the Genderlocked race shouldn't be an issue. Understandably a Disappointment...but not an Issue.
    And if it is a big enough issue to make you unsubb, then I question why you still played the game till this point.
    (4)

  2. #2
    Player
    Sheriyana's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2015
    Location
    Gridania
    Posts
    335
    Character
    Namissa Minami
    World
    Balmung
    Main Class
    Machinist Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Zanarkand-Ronso View Post
    Im more laughing that people are threatening to unsub, or are just flat out unsubbing over a Gender of a race...that Lorewise, is pretty secluded and nonexistent in all FF lore from the getgo. People are mad that they can't get what they want, even if it wouldn't make sense for it to happen.
    Assuming everyone who is upset is from the West.....it just shows how bad Gender Politics are that people are mad at a Japanese game over a western issue.

    If you enjoy this game, the Genderlocked race shouldn't be an issue. Understandably a Disappointment...but not an Issue.
    And if it is a big enough issue to make you unsubb, then I question why you still played the game till this point.
    Well this is the same nonsensical lore nonsense that people have been spewing here for pages. It makes as much sense for there to be male Keepers and Duskwight Elezen as it does male Viera, all of them are incredibly rare when it comes to lore and it makes no sense lorewise for there to be running thousands of player characters playing as them. Why is male Viera different now all of a sudden? Gender politics don't even need to be taken into account to see that there is a problem, we haven't had gender locked races since 1.0, why is it okay now?
    (3)

  3. #3
    Player
    Senliten's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2013
    Posts
    203
    Character
    Senliten Solstice
    World
    Coeurl
    Main Class
    Samurai Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Sheriyana View Post
    Well this is the same nonsensical lore nonsense that people have been spewing here for pages. It makes as much sense for there to be male Keepers and Duskwight Elezen as it does male Viera, all of them are incredibly rare when it comes to lore and it makes no sense lorewise for there to be running thousands of player characters playing as them. Why is male Viera different now all of a sudden? Gender politics don't even need to be taken into account to see that there is a problem, we haven't had gender locked races since 1.0, why is it okay now?

    You do remember that during one of the lore sessions they did state that all those others are just mere adventurers right? As in they walked off the beaten path of the racial norm? Given there is only one Warrior of Light and all that

    Male Viera is also a creation of FF12, Respect and wishes of the FF12 team were taken into consideration clearly with this during Ivalice's creation in 14. Which once again, if anyone were to create a male Viera, it should be them. (The FF12 team)

    Also lore wise, they have their reason, but it can easily be a guise for developmental reasons. And of course, SE love to keep with the fantasy aspect for why and not say 'because we have not many people on our team', do you know the possible outrage that would occur if they said it was due to 'development'? Would be a bloodbath
    (0)
    Last edited by Senliten; 03-24-2019 at 04:00 AM.

  4. #4
    Player
    Sheriyana's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2015
    Location
    Gridania
    Posts
    335
    Character
    Namissa Minami
    World
    Balmung
    Main Class
    Machinist Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Senliten View Post
    You do remember that during one of the lore sessions they did state that all those others are just mere adventurers right? As in they walked off the beaten path of the racial norm? Given there is only one Warrior of Light and all that

    Male Viera is also a creation of FF12, Respect and wishes of the FF12 team were taken into consideration clearly with this during Ivalice's creation in 14. Which once again, if anyone were to create a male Viera, it should be them.
    What does it matter if they're just "mere adventurers"? Adventurer isn't a race, and a representative of a race being an adventurer still means that there's more of that race in the world, which in turn contradicts the lore.

    And yeah, I would have been a little more understanding if they had actually made it a point that was why they chose not to add them, instead of you know, just saying nothing, ignoring that they exist and pretending that a gender locked race is nothing new and no problem at all. Also there's a lot of people from the FFXII team actually working on XIV, and we literally just had Matsuno, the creator of Ivalice designing a whole raid series for us, I'm sure Yoshida could have asked for his blessing any time during the development. And well considering it was in the series Matsuno created for us in XIV that he decided to add all that male Viera lore into this game, clearly confirming not only that they exist in general but on Hydaelyn as well.
    (3)
    Last edited by Sheriyana; 03-24-2019 at 04:26 AM. Reason: Fixed a typo

  5. #5
    Player
    Zanarkand-Ronso's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2019
    Posts
    4,168
    Character
    Johanna Yevon
    World
    Adamantoise
    Main Class
    White Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Sheriyana View Post
    Well this is the same nonsensical lore nonsense that people have been spewing here for pages. It makes as much sense for there to be male Keepers and Duskwight Elezen as it does male Viera, all of them are incredibly rare when it comes to lore and it makes no sense lorewise for there to be running thousands of player characters playing as them. Why is male Viera different now all of a sudden? Gender politics don't even need to be taken into account to see that there is a problem, we haven't had gender locked races since 1.0, why is it okay now?
    Right, but the Keepers/Miqo'te are a race for XIV. The Viera have existed and had Lore way before this game.
    And literally, the entire issue is a Gender Politic.
    (0)

  6. #6
    Player
    Sheriyana's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2015
    Location
    Gridania
    Posts
    335
    Character
    Namissa Minami
    World
    Balmung
    Main Class
    Machinist Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Zanarkand-Ronso View Post
    Right, but the Keepers/Miqo'te are a race for XIV. The Viera have existed and had Lore way before this game.
    And literally, the entire issue is a Gender Politic.
    And with these you can point out to 1.0, when there were no male Miqo'te, neither female Roegadyn or Highlander. Also a race being pulled from one game, doesn't mean it's the same in this game, and again, even before Viera even being mentioned in XIV, we knew male Viera were a thing in Ivalice, just not ever shown. You can make it about politics all you want, to me first and foremost it's about missing game features that we've been trained to expect from the game since they relaunced it. And I'm not saying you can't make the gender politics argument, it's definitely there as well.
    (6)

  7. #7
    Player
    SigmaOZ's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2014
    Location
    Gridania
    Posts
    754
    Character
    Sigma Alpheratz
    World
    Faerie
    Main Class
    White Mage Lv 99
    Is there a way you'd reconsider unsubscribing!?...


    I'm sure male Viera and female Hrothgar can be added later, possibly not in this expansion but in future ones, maybe even in 7.0 when we'll go to the moon.


    Truth is if I decided to unsubscribe because I don't like something in the game I would have done it a long time ago, because this game despite being good lacks horribly in the graphics department and they are never going to improve them.


    If it wasn't because I love my characters I would unsubscribe myself, I just don't see any intention from the dev team to improve the game's look, even the keynote uses some shabby low-res graphics as if taken from some poor laptop, other games offer some really good graphics for characters besides more customization.


    I will reconsider firing all of my extra retainers and just pay the basic sub for the remaining of this game, just to keep my characters alive and my mansions, obviously because it makes me mad they don't even pretend to have intentions of improving the graphics in this game!...
    (2)

  8. #8
    Player
    GangstarSuperstar's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2019
    Posts
    8
    Character
    Ryuko Kasanui
    World
    Cactuar
    Main Class
    Red Mage Lv 70
    Being this upset over a videogame not giving you exactly what you wanted is already pretty sad. But a bunch of dudes on the internet who (lets be honest, will never actually have to deal with sexism irl) using an actual legitimate social problem as an excuse to justify their childish behavior is about the most pathetic thing I've ever seen. To the people doing this, please go on ahead and unsub. The community's better off without people like you anyway.
    (6)

  9. 03-24-2019 12:15 PM

  10. #10
    Player
    Sanctify's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2016
    Posts
    225
    Character
    Sanctify Ofera
    World
    Lamia
    Main Class
    Botanist Lv 80
    All you people freaking out over a gender locked race are literally what's wrong the world right now lmao.
    (10)

Page 23 of 40 FirstFirst ... 13 21 22 23 24 25 33 ... LastLast