I don't really care about Viera, but this is a bad business decision considering how many people would buy fantasia if it wasn't for the genderlock.
I don't really care about Viera, but this is a bad business decision considering how many people would buy fantasia if it wasn't for the genderlock.


See you on June 28th!I'm unsubbing until male Viera are added, sorry devs. I love the game, but I have been hoping for this for a really long time (well before Viera were confirmed or hinted at coming to the game). I understand this is probably a little childish, but I'm not worried about appearing that way.
I'm happy the Ronso crowd got their race, but I'm very disappointed we've yet again taken the route of "men big manly" and "women sleek sexy". Games with genderlocking in races and classes NEVER keep my attention. Black Desert looks great, for example, but my favorite classes are female only so I just can't bring myself to play it.
Unfortunately, between BLU, no male Viera, and (so far) no healer... I'm just really let down.
Please consider bringing us male Viera very soon.



I really dislike the path they took with the new races, and I'm also surprised that they decided to do it like this. Still, there are many other cool things besides the new race, so I personally would never even think about quitting over such a thing. I love the characters we already have and those aren't going anywhere.
Also, I don't lose hope that we might eventually get male Viera for another expansion!
I did not plan to swap my Race, but this step feels so unnecessary old fashioned especially in 2019.



Here's a question: why are any of you disappointed by not having "feminine males," when there were NO implications male Vieras are like that? It seems silly to make that assumption just by looking at the females. The concept makes them look about as macho as male Miqo'te or Elezen.

1: Bye, won't be missed.
2: Bout time the "not Anime-esque bishie pretty boy / anime edgelord" aesthetic got some representation.
Been in this game since the start of ARR, gender locked races aren't for you? Oh well, other games have had them, other games last, not the biggest deal, you'll just keep playing what you do like playing unless you unsub, which if you do, your money, your choice I suppose.


I just registered today to mine the salt. It's petty, I know, I'm a petty person at heart, but some of you guys baffle me. My question is, if you're unsubbing from the game because you didn't at all get what you wanted in regards to cosmetic choice, then how did you guys manage to play the game all these years without it initially???
I'm not trying to be facetious, I am legitimately confused. I'm starting to think that some of you have this hidden flair for the absolutely overdramatic.
Some are putting some overdaramatic into it, but not all. ^^I just registered today to mine the salt. It's petty, I know, I'm a petty person at heart, but some of you guys baffle me. My question is, if you're unsubbing from the game because you didn't at all get what you wanted in regards to cosmetic choice, then how did you guys manage to play the game all these years without it initially???
I'm not trying to be facetious, I am legitimately confused. I'm starting to think that some of you have this hidden flair for the absolutely overdramatic.
But there is a reason why some react the way, the react.
Because like some said. On the one side the Devs said "We did not had free Ressources for male Viera.", but on the other Hand, they had Ressources for a complete different Race.
Some react to this, because of SE and the Devs constantly saying that the Game grows and they have more Money for more Content, but then they always mention ressource Limits.
They put more Cosmetics into the Mog Station and less into Events, but it feels like they now work on a even smaller Budget.
Then, when there is a large demand, they talk about limitations of ressources, but then later announce something that ate up even more Ressources that nobody asked for.
I remember how Diadem 1 failed and how people went to the "pls make the Dungeons more interessting. Diadem was horrible, please focus on good Parts of the Game to make them better.".
And then they again talked about ressources and limitations and later announced Diadem 2.
It is less this single reason, it is a combination of dissapointments over the last 2 Years.
A lot of Stormblood felt like replaying HW with a different Wallpaper. With all the weakneses that were already mentioned by tons of Feedback.
Eureka was a large dissapointment for a lot of Players.
Some Classes that played like a mess.
Streamlining all over the place, to make the Classes easier for no real reason. Some classes feel very lackluster now.
Turning Savage down to Midtier Content, because people wanted Midtier Content, but the Devs had no Idea what to deliver, so they made Savage easier.
Something that made nobody happy. The Raiders steamroll it and for the Midcore Player...they never wanted Savage to be Midcore.
The Bluemage was desined with no brain. "Make a Singleplayer class, that later requires other Players to get the Skills...and it felt like playing a Gacha. RNG everywhere.".
They are not unsubbing only because of the male Viera. They are unsubbing, because they feel like the Devs just do what they like and whatever the Community wishes, gets thrown right into the Trash.
And to Quote the Devs "1. Never forget the fand > without them, there would be no "us".
Nobody wished for Diadem 2, but we still got it and Yoshis only reaction to the Diadem BIS Weapon Topic was "Calm down people...".
Nobody expected him to apologize for that, but he could at least aknowledge, that the Idea was not that great and not tell the people to "Calm down." and then tell them, why their Opinion is wrong.
Last edited by Imuka; 03-24-2019 at 01:32 AM.


Part of me agrees with you, they could've used the resources they had for Hrothgar to implement the dev time for male Viera. On the same token, though, you had people who were very vocal about how frustrated they were that they were sick of "Hyur with X trait". Parts of me would even agree that due to the genderlock the races feel incomplete, but this is the result of what happens when you try to please everyone while you have a deadline to keep. Something's gotta give and they didn't have to add anything new to this expansion--especially considering one of the laments of the dev team was what to do with the Viera feet.Some are putting some overdaramatic into it, but not all. ^^
But there is a reason why some react the way, the react.
Because like some said. On the one side the Devs said "We did not had free Ressources for male Viera.", but on the other Hand, they had Ressources for a complete different Race.
Some react to this, because of SE and the Devs constantly saying that the Game grows and they have more Money for more Content, but then they always mention ressource Limits.
They put more Cosmetics into the Mog Station and less into Events, but it feels like they now work on a even smaller Budget.
Would you rather:
A) Have the release date for Shadowbringers pushed back so that Male Viera and Female Hrothgar be added into the game?
-OR-
B) Take what you can get and allow Shadowbringers to drop the date it was announced to be released?
Damned if you do, damned if you don't, when you really think about it. People are starving for content already and a good chunk of the playerbase doesn't care about small cosmetic additions in regards to race. It doesn't really add that much value to gameplay in a general sense anyway. It is nice to have, don't get me wrong.
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