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  1. #881
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    Repliku's Avatar
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    Solana Parmentier
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    Phoenix
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    White Mage Lv 91
    Quote Originally Posted by manickitty View Post
    Lore doesn’t need to be changed. It’s just the vocal minority using it as an excuse when it’s a debunked reason.

    Miqote males are just as rare as viera yet there are thousands running around. Ronso females are absolutely a thing.
    Miqote males are an original concept from FF14, Vieras aren't, that's the biggest difference. FF14 can retcon FF14 all they want, not FFT and FF12.
    Also they didn't call them Ronsos for a reason : they aren't ronsos.
    And finally, needless to say, but "muh vocal minority" isn't an argument. In the sea of people who don't give a damn, you're also part of a "vocal minority".
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  2. #882
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    Caliban Abyra
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    Astrologian Lv 67
    Miqote are just repainted Mithra though, and they, like the Viera, where genderlocked. Ungenderlocking the Viera for FFXIV would be no different from what happened with the Miqote.
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  3. #883
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    Squintina Nightgard
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    Faerie
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    Scholar Lv 100
    Please add Male Viera and Female Hrothgar. I have no plans on playing them myself but I wish to support those who do.

    I fully understand that having 2 full races in one expansion is a lot of work and why you thought it'd be a great surprise to provide 2 races at the cost of gender since no new race was added for Stormblood.
    Therefore I will fully understand if removing the gender lock means having to wait until 6.0.
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  4. #884
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    Hiroes Libresta
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    Famfrit
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    While i was never a fan or saw the need of adding Viera. I was actually curious to maybe try to play as a male viera on an alt to see how it would work. Not that im dissapointed but im still scratching my head ( despite the explination ) as to why of all things we got a second cat race in return. The more support the more probably both genders come in 6.0 tho. Never too early
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  5. #885
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    Kyousha's Avatar
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    Nikori Periyaha
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    Excalibur
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    Arcanist Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by HealerMagi View Post
    Miqote are just repainted Mithra though, and they, like the Viera, where genderlocked. Ungenderlocking the Viera for FFXIV would be no different from what happened with the Miqote.
    Don't forget Roegadyns... they're repainted Galkas! :O Can say the same about Humes from FFXI.
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  6. #886
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    Ioe Galanodel
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    Faerie
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    Marauder Lv 70
    Showing support for male Viera!
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  7. #887
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    Vivienne Mercier
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    Zalera
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    Black Mage Lv 47
    I agree. Not only do I like the look of male viera in concept art, but I believe that genderlocking these two races so that the only new options in this expansion are sexualized bunny girls and strong beast men reinforces harmful and regressive stereotypes about gender. Please remove the lock to provide options to your playerbase and show you do not support such tropes. I understand if you cannot do so immediately due to limited resources, but affirming your commitment to doing so eventually would mean a lot to me and many other players. Thank you.
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    Last edited by armoranth; 03-26-2019 at 02:34 AM.

  8. #888
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    Teneb'ri Cosa
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    Mateus
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    Black Mage Lv 100
    As someone who has long been vocal against gender restrictions for the gear we wear in-game, I am of course very supportive of adding both male Viera and female Hrothgar in a future update. The lore is not some immutable fact of real world history, and I'm confident the team has the skill to write male Viera in a way that would satisfy players.

    As a person who plays a female Roegadyn, I am keenly aware of how the team decided it was in everyone's best interest to not restrict a race to one gender during the development of 2.0. The fact that there were no gender-restricted races in the game upon launch was a selling point to me back in 2013. Six years later, this seems like a leap backward.

    I sympathize with the team regarding the restraints put on their time and budget by the top brass of Square Enix for this expansion, and I hope that they are taking this feedback to heart.
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  9. #889
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    Magia Dragonnier
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    Faerie
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    Red Mage Lv 93
    Quote Originally Posted by Repliku View Post
    Miqote males are an original concept from FF14, Vieras aren't, that's the biggest difference. FF14 can retcon FF14 all they want, not FFT and FF12.
    Also they didn't call them Ronsos for a reason : they aren't ronsos.
    And finally, needless to say, but "muh vocal minority" isn't an argument. In the sea of people who don't give a damn, you're also part of a "vocal minority".
    They can retcon Viera lore all they want. What do you think the rest of this game is? It's a theme park mmo with elements from other games, retconned to fit into ff14. They chose to keep the lore the same. Probably to minimize cost of writing new lore more than anything, though that's a guess.

    Neither of your can choose who "the vocal minority" is unless you can grab me some hard stats, lol.
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  10. #890
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    xbahax92's Avatar
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    Keiji Zaika
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    Odin
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    Machinist Lv 100
    Woaaaa 900+!!!
    No matter how you turn it, this community is great. There are always those special snowflakes that like to be d**ks but the amount we have reached, the supports that keep flooding in, is amazing.
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