Male Viera as a playable character! show your support

[Berret_Snow]

For now they only thing that really confuses me in their lore is "females are extremely rare". My eyebrows almost left my face when tried to rise high enough to represent amount of my questions about this fact. This is the silliest thing you ever could write for the lore, biologically wise mostly and until recently FFXIV seemed to follow irl biology more or less accurate so... I have some questions, SE story writing team.

Outside of this I couldn't say I'm any disappointed because we didn't really see anything about them. And even the lore for Vieras isn't really relevant because it's for The First - but this is at least some info to work with.

Yeah doesn't really make sense, the few Hroth NPCs that I've talked to have a monogamous relationship, A wife and kid. So I'm wondering if it's basically your normal Medieval kingdom except they have a Queen instead of a King.

[StrongBear]

For now they only thing that really confuses me in their lore is "females are extremely rare". My eyebrows almost left my face when tried to rise high enough to represent amount of my questions about this fact. This is the silliest thing you ever could write for the lore, biologically wise mostly and until recently FFXIV seemed to follow irl biology more or less accurate so... I have some questions, SE story writing team.

Outside of this I couldn't say I'm any disappointed because we didn't really see anything about them. And even the lore for Vieras isn't really relevant because it's for The First - but this is at least some info to work with.

Yes, I believe that was a huge misstep to say Hrothgar females were extremely rare. It opens up unfortunate implications. I'm hoping they'll change it, but do they ever just change lore? With male viera, they said they stay in the woods as an excuse for them not to be playable. But then they could just twist that to say MOST males stay in the woods for them to be playable, but I see no such work-around for playable female Hrothgar.

[Lauront]

Yeah, or even, "they never used to leave it but some brave souls have since been given the Wood's blessing to wander farther afield to ensure its protection", or even just have some renegades, much like some females leave even though they're shunned for doing it.

I think the out they have with the Hrothgar females is that the litter size could be quite large... but even so, I don't see why they wrote it that way. They could've come up with better excuses than that.

[alacruxe]

the person then tried to disprove male Hrothgar being able to be RP'd,

Not what happened, but whatever helps you sleep at night.

Anyway, I would be curious to see if anyone's tried to produce a female Hrothgar in game. I've contemplated playing around with those animalhead hats that got introduced in...Heavensward, I think? I seem to recall people running around with tiger heads for a while. I think they were dungeon drops from Sohm Al or something. Could probably pair one of those with a female Miqo'te base for the tail.

And then we can all go and RP as them to make people like this guy throw tantrums about "BUT MUH LORE."

[alacruxe]

I remember when lore purists were throwing hissy fits about people RPing as White Mages and then Koji basically shut them down at a Q&A by saying that, while rare, it's not impossible for someone to come by a WHM soul crystal in the wild. I'm actually curious what he has to say about people RPing as fem Hrothgar and male Viera. I could definitely see him going either way on it.

[Arngrim_Greyashe]

Not what happened, but whatever helps you sleep at night.

Anyway, I would be curious to see if anyone's tried to produce a female Hrothgar in game. I've contemplated playing around with those animalhead hats that got introduced in...Heavensward, I think? I seem to recall people running around with tiger heads for a while. I think they were dungeon drops from Sohm Al or something. Could probably pair one of those with a female Miqo'te base for the tail.

And then we can all go and RP as them to make people like this guy throw tantrums about "BUT MUH LORE."

I'll let your words speak for themselves.

Hrothgar are also rarely seen, and Helions usually stick around their homeland to serve their Queen. Yet here we are.

Also, I really enjoy how childish you're acting because I've said my piece about RPing male viera. Real mature. Also, the fact that you think I threw a tantrum proves you have little grasp on tone.

Enjoy yourself!

[alacruxe]

words

Pointing out that Hrothgar are still a rare sight =/= claiming you're not allowed to play one.

[Theodric]

And then we can all go and RP as them to make people like this guy throw tantrums about "BUT MUH LORE."

Why do you keep lashing out at people who aren't fully on board with the idea?

[alacruxe]

Why do you keep lashing out at people who aren't fully on board with the idea?

Dunno if "lashing out" is the right turn of phrase, but sure, I'll play ball:
Because I think it's silly that people are getting their undies in a twist over a pretty inoffensive character choice.

[Arngrim_Greyashe]

Dunno if "lashing out" is the right turn of phrase, but sure, I'll play ball:
Because I think it's silly that people are getting their undies in a twist over a pretty inoffensive character choice.

Again, you're absolutely terrible at reading tone it seems. And as I've stated, it's not in the lore so you're likely not to get RP. What part of that is hard to grasp?

Edit: Hit post limit.

I mean, if roleplaying is the same thing as praise, then sure.

Personally, I really don't care if the community ~*~validates~*~ me. All I'm interested in doing is exploring a character concept through collaborative storytelling. I think it's probably pretty fair to say that the same thing goes for anybody else who RPs. It's pretty unfair to assume some kind of ulterior motive there.