Male Viera as a playable character! show your support

[zeylos]

Again, you have literally no idea what you are talking about when it comes to masculinity. Female viera don't have "masculine" emotes or a personality. I already quoted your post where you called them "masculine" before.

Male Au Ra are tall not huge in the sense you are trying to convey. I don't know exactly what the point you are trying to make is here.

They are leaders, assertive, aggressive etc. Femeninity has nothing to do with looks, and I meant personality. Whats your obsession with women have to be femenine and me nmasculine lol

[SturmChurro]

They are leaders, assertive, aggressive etc. Femeninity has nothing to do with looks, and I meant personality. Whats your obsession with women have to be femenine and me nmasculine lol

So if a woman is a leader they are masculine? I am trying to correct you since you have been going on and on about it for several posts, as if stating it as fact.

[Mugear_bahamut]

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Regarding face options, there will be Young, Neutral and Old just like all other races so there's not even a point in discussing that.
Height and muscle tone is the most debatable here. I'm all for the muscle slider thing I want them to have some buffness but
the main reason I get attacked for here is the height thing. I want some more variety like women do with Au Ra females between the
2 shorter races. I'm really tired of stereotyping genders like all men need to be "tall/buff" or whatever and females need to be "short/fragile".
Luckily for the females they got all those stereotypes covered. The main contributor being femRoe having a huge height slider to cover the
extremely tall woman niche. All that's left is probably the "beastly" niche which I wish they implement with height between Midlander and
Highlander because there's a huge gap there. I hope we get the same treatment for mViera to go below Miqote. The main reason
for femRoe having this slider is to fill the niche but avoid extremely depopulizing the race's female due to the female stereotype.
I want FF14's team to fill the unpopular niche of men being below average height filled while avoiding low popularity due to it.

And if anyone's gonna once again tell me to "just play Miqote", then you are completely ignorant. Miqote height is the real average world height.
There's no option to overcome that stereotype other than Lalafell, which for players who do not play the race are obviously not for disproportioned near-humanoid creatures.

I repeat, I am not against having an option to be the same height as an average female Viera.

Edit: Grammar correction

[SturmChurro]

Regarding face options, there will be Young, Neutral and Old just like all other races so there's not even a point in discussing that.
Height and muscle tone is the most debatable here. I'm all for the muscle slider thing I want them to have some buffness but
the main reason I get attacked for here is the height thing. I want some more variety like women do with Au Ra females between the
2 shorter races. I'm really tired of stereotyping genders like all men need to be "tall/buff" or whatever and females need to be "short/fragile".
Luckily for the females they got all those stereotypes covered. The main contributor being femRoe having a huge height slider to cover the
extremely tall woman niche. All that's left is probably the "beastly" niche which I wish they implement with height between Midlander and
Highlander because there's a huge gap there. I hope we get the same treatment for mViera to go below Miqote. The main reason
for having femRoe have this slider is to fill the niche but avoid extremely depopulizing the race's female due to the female stereotype.
I want FF14's team to fill the unpopular niche of men being below stereotype height filled while avoiding low popularity due to it.

And if anyone's gonna once again tell me to "just play Miqote", then you are completely ignorant. Miqote height is the real average world height.
There's no option to overcome that stereotype other than Lalafell, which for players who do not play the race are obviously not for disproportioned near-humanoid creatures.

I repeat, I am not against having an option to be the same height as an average female Viera.

A male midlander can be 5'5, a male miqo'te can be 5'2. Exactly how many adult men do you see under that height? You have 2 races, especially miqo'te that can be particularly short for a man, and you want another one? If you want something shorter than 5'2 there is a lalafell. What are you wanting a male that is 4'8? I'm sorry, I do not think male viera should be 4'8, they should be 6'+ like the females; equal in height.

[Gwenorai]

This is going to be extremely hypocritically of me to say because I've brought up human standpoints and all that - and this can certainly be used as an argument against my own viewpoints since I'm going by human biology. But in regards to the population of Eorzea where the most prominent races are strikingly tall - if a male Viera was under the height of a male miqote wouldn't they be beneath the average height of the entire realm? Not that it matters I suppose. But the average height is certainly different in Eorzea due to the races were given. Though I suppose male lala's might drive the whole average to the ground, hm.

[Kobalos]

Wheeet this topic has turned a wee bit serious. Fun fact we used to have a male rabbit who we ended up getting neutered. He was really aggressive and violent and would try to shag and attack everything sometimes at the same time. Funnily enough once he had his bollocks taken he was the sweetest lil house bunny.

[Gwenorai]

Wheeet this topic has turned a wee bit serious. Fun fact we used to have a male rabbit who we ended up getting neutered. He was really aggressive and violent and would try to shag and attack everything sometimes at the same time. Funnily enough once he had his bollocks taken he was the sweetest lil house bunny.

This is the best comment in this entire thread. We probably shouldn't base male Viera on male rabbits because most of them, especially hares are aggressive buggers who will try to mess you up.

[Mugear_bahamut]

If you want something shorter than 5'2 there is a lalafell.

And if anyone's gonna once again tell me to "just play Miqote", then you are completely ignorant.

At least 5'1? Why did you suddenly go 6 inches below? An inch is a pretty huge difference if you even know how to measure it.
femRoes have a 1-foot height slider in contrast to other female races which only have 1/2 a foot(5~6 inches) sliders.
Applying this to a 5'1 male Viera means you can still reach 6'1 which is just a bit below maximum height for female Viera(6'3).

[Mugear_bahamut]

This is going to be extremely hypocritically of me to say because I've brought up human standpoints and all that - and this can certainly be used as an argument against my own viewpoints since I'm going by human biology. But in regards to the population of Eorzea where the most prominent races are strikingly tall - if a male Viera was under the height of a male miqote wouldn't they be beneath the average height of the entire realm? Not that it matters I suppose. But the average height is certainly different in Eorzea due to the races were given. Though I suppose male lala's might drive the whole average to the ground, hm.

What's wrong with that though? Lalafell are the most midget patatas in Eorzea and still the most evil and violent.
Edit: Yeah that was the point even in my original post: to go below average.

[zeylos]

This is the best comment in this entire thread. We probably shouldn't base male Viera on male rabbits because most of them, especially hares are aggressive buggers who will try to mess you up.

Hares arent rabbits. Their evil demons QWQ