Male Viera as a playable character! show your support

[SturmChurro]

Yeah, I'd like the option for more bulk! Something closer to a Highlander in terms of muscle definition would be wonderful. When I commissioned art of my character I asked for a bit more muscle than the character models allow for. I like how the Warrior of Light is depicted in the cinematics as he's given more definition there too.

Midlanders DEFINITELY need more muscle definition, and bulk. They are too small for me, their max height is like 5'8 (super short), and their muscle slider doesn't really make them look that good. Most of the hairstyles kind of suck too, SE needs to release more male hairstyles! I'd like some more western styled 'regular' cuts. The faces are very hit and miss too. Aside from Elezen, I think hyur are in desperate need for a customization overhaul, even the females need them. I will tell you right now, I would be playing a midlander female, and not au ra/miqo'te (depends on how I feel like when I have fantasia money to blow) - if they had a different running animation. I think females at least need an animation overhaul, or at least maybe down the line SE gives us more options for the current races we have. I started as a female highlander, but again with them I didn't really like their animations. If they gave us the options to not only change our idle stances, but also change our running animations/etc.

I really would actually prefer for them to do a customization overhaul of our current races!

[Arngrim_Greyashe]

I want bad content cut if that's what it takes to add missing genders.
I don't need to convince you, if you disagree that's on you.

That's entirely subjective. Getting into that territory just makes everyone wanting the other genders look bad.

[Lauront]

Midlanders DEFINITELY need more muscle definition, and bulk. They are too small for me, their max height is like 5'8 (super short), and their muscle slider doesn't really make them look that good. Most of the hairstyles kind of suck too, SE needs to release more male hairstyles! I'd like some more western styled 'regular' cuts. The faces are very hit and miss too. Aside from Elezen, I think hyur are in desperate need for a customization overhaul, even the females need them. I will tell you right now, I would be playing a midlander female, and not au ra/miqo'te (depends on how I feel like when I have fantasia money to blow) - if they had a different running animation. I think females at least need an animation overhaul, or at least maybe down the line SE gives us more options for the current races we have. I started as a female highlander, but again with them I didn't really like their animations. If they gave us the options to not only change our idle stances, but also change our running animations/etc.

I really would actually prefer for them to do a customization overhaul of our current races!

The max is just shy of 6ft but yeah, it'd be nice if we could pick a few preset body types that fit each race, including a more muscular one. No doubt the words "Nightmare" come to Yoshi's mind when that is brought up but it would be cool.

[Amnmaat]

Completely subjective and a slippery slope. Let's not beat around the bush here - some of the people pushing for the missing genders are over-invested and care little for who or what they throw under the bus in order to get what they desire.

That's entirely subjective. Getting into that territory just makes everyone wanting the other genders look bad.

The devs made the decision to remove a dungeon to add Eureka (or was it to add Ultimate fights).
Every suggestion/request on this forum is subjective but just because it's subjective doesn't mean that your opinion matters more than mine. If it takes cutting down bad content to add male Viera then that's my stance, I will not change it.

[SturmChurro]

The max is just shy of 6ft but yeah, it'd be nice if we could pick a few preset body types that fit each race, including a more muscular one. No doubt the words "Nightmare" come to Yoshi's mind when that is brought up but it would be cool.

For sure. If they are iffy about doing new races, or more genders because of the manpower it would take to fit every item in the game to them - and they only would really have 1 body type each. This is probably completely implausible right now. It's unfortunate. I'd hope animations, faces, hairstyles, and general aesthetics (tattoos, scars, facial hair, facepaint) are plausible down the line though!

[Theodric]

The devs made the decision to remove a dungeon to add Eureka (or was it to add Ultimate fights).
Every suggestion/request on this forum is subjective but just because it's subjective doesn't mean that your opinion matters more than mine. If it takes cutting down bad content to add male Viera then that's my stance, I will not change it.

Thank you for reinforcing my point.

I wonder what phase the thread will shift into next, given that it seems to be fated to become a perpetual cycle at this point?

[Lauront]

For sure. If they are iffy about doing new races, or more genders because of the manpower it would take to fit every item in the game to them - and they only would really have 1 body type each. This is probably completely implausible right now. It's unfortunate. I'd hope animations, faces, hairstyles, and general aesthetics (tattoos, scars, facial hair, facepaint) are plausible down the line though!

Not being an expert in this field, I'm not sure whether it is feasible to find a way to "efficiently create new assets" as he more or less put it - I assume there must be since he broaches on the possibility. Hopefully they'll find it and we'll see more body types ushered in over time. Otherwise, I'll be content with just seeing more customisation options besides those and better textures.

[Amnmaat]

Thank you for reinforcing my point.

I wonder what phase the thread will shift into next, given that it seems to be fated to become a perpetual cycle at this point?

Reinforcing what point? Discussions stress you out?

[Sophie_Lo]

My only thoughts on the matter of the new race genders is that shouldn't we be grateful they gave us two new races at all? Honestly, they didn't have to give us ANY, and I appreciate the fact that they try to put out new content cyclically that appeals to everyone, in one way or another. That is a fact proven by time in this game.

[Lauront]

That's an odd way of framing it - shouldn't they be grateful I have maintained a $15 sub for this game for the past 6 or so years?

It has little to do with that, in the end. They're not doing this as charity work and neither am I buying the game just to support some cause. I will continue to sub to the game for as long as the content appeals enough to me. Obviously I accept that in some cases they will spend on things of lesser interest to me, but it does not change the nature of the transaction here.