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  1. #4291
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    Senn's Avatar
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    Leone Noir
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xulcan View Post
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    Although the live letter gave no promises, he did say that if the dev team could address the problems which prevents them from implementing male viera and female hrothgar, we may possibly see them one day in the game. It's just that Yoshi P can't make any promises right now. So there's still possibly a chance? It's not like he can come out and say that without raising everyone's expectations no matter how much we would like to hear it. All we can do is keep up the support and hope we see the inclusion of male viera one day. Gotta stay positive
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  2. #4292
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    Aisha Starglow
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xulcan View Post
    We were told that there will never be gender locked races again and now all we receive is excuses of well two races with two genders is too hard. Then don't put either in and keep your word. Or do as your doing and lose your honesty.

    Seems the choice was made.
    I think u didn't understand their response very well. They said they will try to make male viera and female hrotgar, and that they are making the lore allow them as a playable character in the eyes of everybody. This are amazing news and you should be happy! Now there is a very high chance we'll see them at 6.0!
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  3. #4293
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    Lukh'a Lybhica
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    Quote Originally Posted by Selova View Post
    Let's be honest here. Were you honestly that excited for a entire expansion if the fact that a cosmetic aspect of a new race was going to make or break a the new expansion for you? Seems kind of odd to base your enjoyment of a entire game over a cosmetic feature that was never confirmed to begin with.
    I mean, this is the game where we only half-jokingly claim that 'glamour is the true endgame'. Literally every reward for clearing content in the game is either a cosmetic item or currency to buy a cosmetic item; how is it hard to wrap your mind around someone being upset over something cosmetic?

    And it's not even the fact of the matter, so much as the blatant disrespect for the interests of a good chunk of the community that this decision implies. I think most of us would have been okay with getting male and female Viera, or male and female Hrothgar, even if it wasn't the race we personally desired for ourselves. However, there has been a large and outspoken push against genderlocking in this game, which SE cannot claim not to be aware of, as they have responded to it in the past and even made changes to the game because of it. For them to blithely go ahead and genderlock entire races and then pretend they're surprised when people are unhappy about it is dishonest and insulting, and the way they spaced out their announcements was clearly intended to mislead people just long enough so that they would no longer be able to cancel their preorders.

    It's easy to say 'how can this one little thing bother you so much' if you're happy or indifferent to the result, and have been happy or indifferent to SE's decisions regarding glamour in the past, but for those of us who have been wrestling with these issues for years at this point, this is a pretty hard slap in the face when we thought we'd finally gotten through to them.
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  4. #4294
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    Duskane's Avatar
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    so seems they saw fans demand on glasses and such and worked some stuff out for Hroth and veira





    they are definitely willing to put in the extra effort to make people happy

    Edit- also notice that the hrothgar has no nails but in the trailer they shown to have black nails unless its apart of there racial gear haha
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    Last edited by Duskane; 05-10-2019 at 04:53 PM.

  5. #4295
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    grinkdaboy's Avatar
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    too much work to add claws to the roe model
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  6. #4296
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    Sukhebaatar Qerel
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    I have faith that they'll implement the counterparts, considering they worked overtime just to make glasses and such visible on the Hrothgar and Viera. Here's hoping we see them by 6.0! Just remember to stay cautiously optimistic, everyone.
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  7. #4297
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    Quote Originally Posted by zeylos View Post
    I think u didn't understand their response very well. They said they will try to make male viera and female hrotgar, and that they are making the lore allow them as a playable character in the eyes of everybody. This are amazing news and you should be happy! Now there is a very high chance we'll see them at 6.0!
    STOP.. STOP STOPSTOPSTOPSTOP..

    Please. Set expectations correctly
    the exact quote is:
    While you won’t meet any in person, if we developers can find a way to address the various problems which are preventing us from implementing them, then perhaps someday you’ll be able to see them for yourself. I want to be clear that this does not mean it will eventually happen, and that I cannot make any promises at this time. I hope you will understand and bear with us.
    This does not in any way imply a HIGH chance. Just that there is a chance.
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    WHERE IS THIS KETTLE EVERYONE KEEPS INTRODUCING ME TO?

  8. #4298
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    Elja Djt-dvre
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    Those people who adjusted glasses in their spare time - aren't they amazing? I wish I could treat all of them with delicious food and few days of rest really.

    As for answer about missing genders: it seems they going to keep an open window in lore for them, and implement if it will not break their schedule. It's quite a good response from their side. Not "yes", but not "no" as well. I mean, it's better than strict "no".
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  9. #4299
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    Aelin Alvered
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    Zalera
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    We got the response, sadly it was the same as before, pretty much not a "we'll consider it/work towards it" and not a "no" so instead of getting disappointed I'll just not hold onto hope and enjoy the expansion.

    But should they one day come out with the other genders, I would be so excited. And I have a lot of faith in the devs, as they work super hard for this community (even to work this hard in their spare time hot damn, I hope they get a bonus).

    (also that picture without the black nails is really horrifying, I hope the Hrothgar all come out with their nails lol, cause they look like roe's with masks without the claws lmao.)
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  10. #4300
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    Aisha Starglow
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    Quote Originally Posted by Krotoan View Post
    STOP.. STOP STOPSTOPSTOPSTOP..

    Please. Set expectations correctly
    the exact quote is:


    This does not in any way imply a HIGH chance. Just that there is a chance.
    If u knew Yoshi p's way of marketing, it does
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