Male Viera as a playable character! show your support

[Lauront]

But it isn't working. The entire studio is stretched thin and underfunded.

Honestly, though, I have no idea what to say to someone that can't understand the value of taking an extra month or two to do something right, as opposed to rush-ordering a half-finished mess, other than your perspective is exceedingly harmful to the creation of, well, anything actually valuable.

I don't know what you mean by a 'literal handful', either. You can see the proof with all of the things I've mentioned by attempting to do any of them in the game right now. Even at peak hours, most of that content is completely dead.

More than this, it's content for its own sake.

Raids, dungeons, trials, job quests, MSQ, more jobs, seasonal events, crossovers, zones, crafting stuff, QoL upgrades - I can get behind all that. As well as this, there is maintenance and improvement of things like the netcode, server infrastructure, job balance and also possible graphics and customisation options... and, dare I say, reviewing the 2.0 quest structure. These are all things the game has a good reputation for and which are essential elements of its content.

Hot messes like the game's PVP, diadem, BLU, the implementation of Eureka, as well as very rarely used content like the majority of Gold Saucer games or squadrons? What about HoH? Should these not be subjected to a value for money rationalisation? Now, I can't say that they haven't done that, and would hope that they have, but there is a mountain of already existing content that, if they did not lift another finger, would still be there. Meanwhile, we know that even if they did perform such a rationalisation, they have probably erred in terms of assessing the value of some content, e.g. Diadem was widely considered a failure. It's not so much that an MMO can't spread out over various forms of content, just that other MMOs either have larger budgets to do so (i.e. see greater re-investment), can do so at a lower cost due to fewer legacy issues or focus on specific areas which they want to excel at. If the resources are as tight as they claim, then why are they going on these failed projects? Moreover, do they lack confidence in their marketing schemes like the Dad of Light movie?

Could be they think it will expand the playerbase and bring in more money, so they're waiting to see how it turns out before committing to anything yet, which is fine, but there is clearly content and "content".

This is a sub MMO with a cash shop that by all accounts brings in considerable revenues for very little effort. So where is SE diverting all this resource to?

Unfortunately they're working with a difficult situation, because the game has a lot of legacy issues, but that can't act as a constant impediment to bringing it up to current standards.

You do realise that you confirm what i said right ?

Or maybe this sarcastic tone is a begining of stage 2 for you maybe ^^

It's more that I think it's presumptuous to believe that the whole affair can be shoehorned into that.

[KaijinRhada]

That's our duty. -claps on the shoulder-
I was seriously asked "You're a girl, why do you play male character" from guys who played females. Their logic was majestic (in bad way).

While I try not to let it bother me, the irony never escapes me when posed this question myself.

I just want my fierce forest defender as another option to carry on the spirit of previous characters I had in other games.

Especially given that Blizzard mangled Night Elf representation, and characterization. -_-

[BastienWyngarden]

While not an ideal fix, if they wanted to implement male viera for us, they could use existing skeletons: make a few faces as would normally be the case, then use an au ra body for one clan, and a miqote body for the other clan. Or something to that effect. They wouldn’t have to adjust any armors, as they’re already fitted for these bodies.

[Quipsy]

Speaking as someone who loves Frontline (particularly shatter) bunches and bunches, I wouldn't mind if PvP went untouched for a while. Not very many people like it and those that do settle into a rhythm that they don't like disrupted. (See: The two-week period after the data center shuffle where things were thoroughly unenjoyable because everyone was thrown off by the dispersion of regulars and playstyles weren't meshing.) I can't speak for everyone, particularly people who are into other modes like RW, but I'd gladly trade tweaking of things here (unless there's a particularly glaring problem) for patches that are meatier on the main game side of things. Side dishes are always good, but the focal point of every meal is a delectable and hefty main course, whatever it may be.

I'd rather see a big, juicy, greasy burger loaded with toppings then like... a McDouble with two orders of large fries.

[rachcouture]

Speaking as someone who loves Frontline (particularly shatter) bunches and bunches, I wouldn't mind if PvP went untouched for a while. Not very many people like it and those that do settle into a rhythm that they don't like disrupted. (See: The two-week period after the data center shuffle where things were thoroughly unenjoyable because everyone was thrown off by the dispersion of regulars and playstyles weren't meshing.) I can't speak for everyone, particularly people who are into other modes like RW, but I'd gladly trade tweaking of things here (unless there's a particularly glaring problem) for patches that are meatier on the main game side of things. Side dishes are always good, but the focal point of every meal is a delectable and hefty main course, whatever it may be.

I'd rather see a big, juicy, greasy burger loaded with toppings then like... a McDouble with two orders of large fries.

As someone that also enjoys the terribly flawed PvP, I would be okay with this, too.

[zeylos]

I just saw a YouTube video and I am starting to really don't get what ffxiv answer was(if an answer at all) it's basically not only the same we were given at jp, but it's change if words makes ppl think it either means we are for sure getting then, or that the letter was the nail on the coffin to the subject. I honestly just think they should have given an actual response, considering I'm quite sure they already know what they are going to do. I guess we will still have to wait for an actual response. I expect them to perhaps give it on live letter, but who knows at this point

[WhiteArchmage]

I just saw a YouTube video and I am starting to really don't get what ffxiv answer was(if an answer at all) it's basically not only the same we were given at jp, but it's change if words makes ppl think it either means we are for sure getting then, or that the letter was the nail on the coffin to the subject. I honestly just think they should have given an actual response, considering I'm quite sure they already know what they are going to do. I guess we will still have to wait for an actual response. I expect them to perhaps give it on live letter, but who knows at this point

I'm not expecting a straight answer for two big reasons: If it's a positive, the smartest thing would be to announce it close to implementation date to be sure the assets can be delivered timely and to drive up hype (In the case of 6.0, JP or EU Fan Fests, close to expansion drop). If it's a negative, it would...well, proverbial <kupo> hitting the fan, not good for PR.

[LunaFancy]

Just nod and move on ladies and gents, nod and move on.

Though hilariously enough, I actually dislike ERP - makes me cringe. But I'm not going to throw folk under the bus for liking it. As for being 'Gay' - nah man. I'm a hot-blooded female who just appreciates some good old eye candy. Why can't the female have something to gawk at? But, seriously - even though what I said was me speaking the truth on some things - I do understand where the connection is coming from. A lot of folks want to ERP - good for them. I'm not one of them. I just blooming like Viera and wanted to finally see the males after little old lassy me was sobbing when I didn't see any hunks in FF12. I remember seeing the cinematic. Saw those Viera females and was just 'wow' if the females look like this then the males must look like Michelangelo's David. They didn't look like that, because they didn't chuffing show them! Give me my David bunny boi!

Also snowflake generation! Me? LMAO.

Because we don't exist. Or our opinion doesn't matter. Or because "men don't need to be handsome". Or because "all girls love bulky guys" (I would say what I think about bulky guys in reality but okay). Or because any other #9084684 stereotype.
/sarcasm (I wish...)

That's our duty. -claps on the shoulder-
I was seriously asked "You're a girl, why do you play male character" from guys who played females. Their logic was majestic (in bad way).

[QUOTE=KaijinRhada;4978467]While I try not to let it bother me, the irony never escapes me when posed this question myself./QUOTE]

Fistbump to my sisters in arms! I can relate to all of the above lol!

I wasn't planning on fantasiaing my main, but I certainly planned on enjoying the work of those who did... and would likely have made an alt down the track during the expac.

Never give up! Never surrender!

[grinkdaboy]

i'm still pretty hopeful. the liveletter was more or less an explanation of the misstep they took in making 2 genderlocked races (time, resources, desire for a beastly race despite the fact that male viera could have fulfilled that role). their previous statement was "depending on feedback we'll do it (we're going to do it, it's just a matter of when" and this does not seem like a 'no' to me.

[vaultie]

So, I plan on swapping to Viera once they become playable and the whole "no males" thing doesn't exactly affect me, but I just feel the need to throw my two cents out there. I'm switching because I enjoy the fact that Viera are portrayed as more mature, because let's face it- Female Miqo'te and Female Au'ra do look on the younger side, especially with the range of their height scale. "What about Elezen or Hyur or Roe?" You may ask? Putting it bluntly- Female Elezens, Hyurs, and Roes, while able to look mature, don't provide the same animalistic aesthetic that a Miqo or Auri would. Viera take the best of both worlds in that regard, giving a happy-medium to those that want to be on the taller/more mature side while still having popular animal features.

From what I can see, those asking for Male Viera are wanting the same exact thing (save for a certain minority). For many, I can tell they feel that Miqo'te men are too short, yet Elezen and Au'ra are too tall, while Hyurs lack the "fantasy" feel with the animal features, as stated before. Likewise, it's worth mentioning that those wanting Female Hrothgar could be unsatisfied with Femroes for the same "animal" reason. There's absolutely nothing wrong with wanting bunny ears or whatever other animal feature- It's a fantasy game, after all.

In my opinion, I feel that those unsubbing and getting mad at the devs are overreacting. But, on the other hand, those "celebrating" the exclusion of Male Viera need to find better hobbies and stop harassing others. More customization and more variety would be the opposite of a bad thing. However, I still think that main story + raiding content should have priority over customization, and I personally would not want the devs to do more work and crunching than they already need to.