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  1. #3941
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    Yeah, that's one of my favourites.
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  2. #3942
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    If the Hrothgar would have had bunny ears and were called Viera instead, would you guys have been cool with it?
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  3. #3943
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nonuel View Post
    If the Hrothgar would have had bunny ears and were called Viera instead, would you guys have been cool with it?
    Who's this "you guys"? we can barely agree among ourselves about something for half a page.
    I'm sure some people would've liked that design. After all, some like Hroths as they are now, and with them being beastly, there's not much keeping them from being bunnies too, now is there?
    But you can be sure that a lot less people would've made a stink about it because a lot of people don't care about either race, but the genderlocks bother them. Introducing male Viera in any form would negate that.
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  4. #3944
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nonuel View Post
    If the Hrothgar would have had bunny ears and were called Viera instead, would you guys have been cool with it?
    If they had been designed to be closer to Byakko in terms of their aesthetics? Sure. I wouldn't have had too much of an issue with it.
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    If they ever do make female Hrothgar I would make one. They better be buff though, dont make female au ra pt 2 electric boogaloo please
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  6. #3946
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    Quote Originally Posted by BillyKaplan View Post
    Who's this "you guys"? we can barely agree among ourselves about something for half a page.
    I'm sure some people would've liked that design. After all, some like Hroths as they are now, and with them being beastly, there's not much keeping them from being bunnies too, now is there?
    But you can be sure that a lot less people would've made a stink about it because a lot of people don't care about either race, but the genderlocks bother them. Introducing male Viera in any form would negate that.
    It's just a general question.

    What I don't get is what is it about male Viera that people want? The way I see it, the Hrothgar could have been called Viera instead.
    But they're just something different, a name, and since we got one of each gender (M/F) I think it's fair right now.
    Is it just the symbolism of a name, the title? Or the feeling of something being incomplete or missing?
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  7. #3947
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nonuel View Post
    If the Hrothgar would have had bunny ears and were called Viera instead, would you guys have been cool with it?

    It would be cool if the Hrothgar had bunny ears as an option.
    But anyway. So they look basically the same, just the ears and name are different?
    My response would be “Why do they look like that?”
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nonuel View Post
    If the Hrothgar would have had bunny ears and were called Viera instead, would you guys have been cool with it?
    Certainly not.
    I bet that nobody wants another roe body, and even less to be paired with a super model female viera model

    Quote Originally Posted by Nonuel View Post
    It's just a general question.

    What I don't get is what is it about male Viera that people want? The way I see it, the Hrothgar could have been called Viera instead.
    But they're just something different, a name, and since we got one of each gender (M/F) I think it's fair right now.
    Is it just the symbolism of a name, the title? Or the feeling of something being incomplete or missing?
    People want to play viera.
    People not always likes to play female characters
    Viera are an attractive imposing race
    People want a male viera that's attractive and imposing (for the most part)
    People don't want either children or yet another roegadyn body, and it would make 0 sense to pair the hrotgar with female viera and call it a full viera race
    My point of view

    EDIT: Also I want to remind you that this is just my opinion, so I do not in any moment speak for everybody, just from what I've seen.
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    Last edited by zeylos; 04-28-2019 at 06:20 AM. Reason: To respond to another post

  10. #3949
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nonuel View Post
    What I don't get is what is it about male Viera that people want?
    To begin with, male Viera are a mystery in the FF franchise. So "male Viera" in and of itself is something coveted regardless of what they'll actually look like.
    For me, it has a lot to do with the mannerism when I play (I imagine them to be a bit more... focused than Au Ra?) and the lore behind them. The Viera lore interests me and I'd like to see it for both the females and males, which are bound to be noticeably different given the genders live such separate, different lifestyles. A race's lore interests me and affects my writing as I roleplay a lot, and it's something I'd have liked to write around. Sadly, even the developers seem to ignore that aspect of a race's introduction since in all interviews they seem focused on, say, what Hrothgars add to the table looks-wise, when their lore has a lot of issues (the females being so few from a race survival standpoint, why the clans differ in color when it seems like the main difference is whether or not they follow the queen, off the top of my head)
    And I do think they'll be even 'prettier' than Au Ra, or at least would have expressions that are not as built-in, well, nasty. I'd also prefer the fuzziness to an Au Ra's scales, to explain why I want them on top of existing races despite them not differing "too much"
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  11. #3950
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    Quote Originally Posted by zeylos View Post
    Certainly not.
    I bet that nobody wants another roe body, and even less to be paired with a super model female viera model



    People want to play viera.
    People not always likes to play female characters
    Viera are an attractive imposing race
    People want a male viera that's attractive and imposing (for the most part)
    People don't want either children or yet another roegadyn body, and it would make 0 sense to pair the hrotgar with female viera and call it a full viera race
    My point of view
    Quote Originally Posted by BillyKaplan View Post
    To begin with, male Viera are a mystery in the FF franchise. So "male Viera" in and of itself is something coveted regardless of what they'll actually look like.
    For me, it has a lot to do with the mannerism when I play (I imagine them to be a bit more... focused than Au Ra?) and the lore behind them. The Viera lore interests me and I'd like to see it for both the females and males, which are bound to be noticeably different given the genders live such separate, different lifestyles. A race's lore interests me and affects my writing as I roleplay a lot, and it's something I'd have liked to write around. Sadly, even the developers seem to ignore that aspect of a race's introduction since in all interviews they seem focused on, say, what Hrothgars add to the table looks-wise, when their lore has a lot of issues (the females being so few from a race survival standpoint, why the clans differ in color when it seems like the main difference is whether or not they follow the queen, off the top of my head)
    And I do think they'll be even 'prettier' than Au Ra, or at least would have expressions that are not as built-in, well, nasty. I'd also prefer the fuzziness to an Au Ra's scales, to explain why I want them on top of existing races despite them not differing "too much"

    Thank you both for your input.

    I see there are many different opinions across the board on this subject. Makes me wonder how the devs might approach it if/when they do.
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