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  1. #3881
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    Sukhebaatar Qerel
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    Quote Originally Posted by WhiteArchmage View Post
    Flashbacks to Jack the Ripper from Fate/Apocrypha... I hate that "hypersexualized child but not actually child because they're really 700 years old" trope...
    For real. That trope just enables pedophiles tbh.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kelryth View Post
    Their reasons are good to them. For example, My opinion on Roes are that they are bloody ugly so I avoid playing them. Not liking how they look is a good reason not to play them. Reasons are subjective. People are different and have different likes and dislikes. One mans garbage is another mans treasure...ect, ect.


    Personally, I'll check out hrothgar at launch but I doubt I'll stick with it. I'm not a fan of the hulk body type...lol
    I'm talking about the people who use those reasons as a way to de-legitimize them as a race. I'm fine with people not liking their appearance, obviously not everyone will like their appearance, I just take issue with people who decide to reduce them to some very broad appearance factors that they share with Roes in order to make them look bad. E.g. saying that Hrothgars are just bastardized Roes, when they clearly aren't.
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    Last edited by Renthas; 04-27-2019 at 12:40 AM.

  2. #3882
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    Lauront's Avatar
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    Tristain Archambeau
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    Quote Originally Posted by AnnaRosa View Post
    If Male Viera would look like that many players would change to it in a blink of an eye not just cause that facial features are attractive but because would beat Cid and that is a miracle.

    No PC can beat Cid he is the most attractive NPC in FFXIV!
    There's about a dozen other male NPCs I'd sooner grant that title. If not more.

    Quote Originally Posted by Senn View Post
    I don't think a poll or player requests for a certain body type would sway the dev team to do anything. Just because it's possible doesn't mean it's likely. Yoshida already has a vision for what male viera would look like. It seems like if male viera were to ever be implemented, the devs already have a general idea for their appearance. It will probably be a fitting counterpart to the females.

    Like I already said, I'm not just saying this because of my own preferences. It's literally what Yoshida has said, and it's shown in the concept art. At the very least, I can point to things that have been said by the producer himself, or even the concept art. Even if there's a chance things can change in development, it's better than having nothing to point at. Going off solely what has been said by Yoshida and the concept art, male viera will most likely be slim in build.

    I do support having a variety of face options and muscle sliders. However, I have this to say to the people who want buff viera; I honestly don't think it's going to happen for you. At the very least, not with the information we have been given at this current point in time.
    That was more Yoshi P airing his ideas. At the same time, Matsuno seemed to like the Highlander physique for them. So we'll see. I could easily see them ending up between either build.

    Quote Originally Posted by Theodric View Post
    It's also possible that something was lost in translation or that it could change at some point during the development cycle. As Lauront's poll revealed, there's plenty of appetite for tall and well-built Viera men. That could very well sway the development team between the present day and the actual implementation. Assuming they're even added to begin with, of course.
    I don't think it'd sway them, per se, however it looks like most people who took it like the idea of a build somewhere between Elezen and Highlander/Au Ra.

    Quote Originally Posted by BillyKaplan View Post
    No but they're certainly muscular. Muscle mass (Roegadyn and Highlanders) vs. Muscle tone and definition (basically all other non-Lalafell guys). A good example would actually be Highlander women - they're not any bigger for maxing out the muscle slider but damn, lady, do you have a license for those guns? And male Viera in the concept art were certainly dual wielding guns and a pack of ammo in their bellies. They had much better muscle definition than, say, Elezen.
    Which in the first place would fit much better with their aesthetic, and I keep thinking about how Disney drew Tarzan. He was slim but obviously packing some serious muscles, which makes sense because he'd need to be both strong and nimble to be able to live on the treetops - something muscle mass would be a hindrance to as it makes the muscles firmer and harder, difficult to operate in such environments and speeds. That's a much better look for bunny folks who spend their lives not only protecting the forest but also doing it while hidden from prying eyes.
    In terms of their pure bulk, Au Ra are about the same size as Highlanders. Just not as lean/shredded. However, I agree with all this. I like the build of the guy in my sig. He's not overly bulky but it's plainly visible how strong his body is.
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    Last edited by Lauront; 04-27-2019 at 12:43 AM.
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  3. #3883
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    BillyKaplan's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lauront View Post
    In terms of their pure bulk, Au Ra are about the same size as Highlanders.
    There's proportions to take into consideration. Au Ra are much taller so even if they have the same amount of (non-relative) bulk, they'll look slimmer.
    Which is yet another reason why I prefer Au Ra to be the base for male Viera
    (7)

  4. #3884
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    Just so long as they rework those damn hips.
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  5. #3885
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lauront View Post
    Just so long as they rework those damn hips.
    Now, Lauront, there's no shame in being child bearing.
    Lord knows that's one way to solve the "female Hroths are rare" issue
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  6. #3886
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    Quote Originally Posted by zeylos View Post
    I find it extremely amusing on how u ppl are like 'But male viera is only for ERP!'
    Then u must be extremely mad about female viera.
    I also recommend u not to search Hrotgar on google when they are released unless you want 90% of the pages to be for either ERP or erotic manga about male hrotgar
    I have never claimed to have anything against ERP so this is 100% projection. ERP all you want with adult characters and you'll not hear a peep from me about it.
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  7. #3887
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lauront View Post
    There's about a dozen other male NPCs I'd sooner grant that title. If not more.
    Objection! Blasphemy! Lies!

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  8. #3888
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    I would actually really like hem to look like au ra but as bunnies instead of dragons
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  9. #3889
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    Also, I would like to apologize for being rather hostile towards ppl that didn't share my opinion, and from now on I will try to be as polite and open minded as possible. That is due to the fact that gender lock personally hurt me, since I have been bullied for most of my life due to not following gender roles, and while I'm not saying the new races are sexist, they sure do pour salt on the wounds that are finally starting to close. Also I would like to specifically make an apology towards veis_Alveare since I judged them wrongly and I should have never done that.
    My most sincere apologies
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  10. #3890
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    Leone Noir
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lauront View Post
    That was more Yoshi P airing his ideas. At the same time, Matsuno seemed to like the Highlander physique for them. So we'll see. I could easily see them ending up between either build.
    This is a misinterpretation at best, or dishonest at worst. His post was clearly a joke.

    I will post his tweet here so no one is mislead.



    Untranslated


    link

    His joke was never meant to hint at or suggest this is how he wanted male viera to look.
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