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  1. #3251
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    VirusOnline's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Beki_Bayaqad View Post
    That's because the same ten or so people keep posting on this thread artificially inflating its post count. I can confidentially claim that at least one hundred posts are of meaningless fanart. And at least half of the rest are Senn or MrKimper being trolls.
    You're looking at the wrong number. The number of likes is what's important. I dare you to find me any thread or post for beastmen with such amount of likes.
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  2. #3252
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    Quote Originally Posted by Beki_Bayaqad View Post
    That's because the same ten or so people keep posting on this thread artificially inflating its post count. I can confidentially claim that at least one hundred posts are of meaningless fanart. And at least half of the rest are Senn or MrKimper being trolls.
    In what way have a trolled? I think you coming in here and erroneously citing viera lore with "males never existed" is more trolling than anything else.

    Either way that completely disregards the 1600 unique likes and the 5000+ signs that the petition has, unless you seem to think I'm controlling multiple sock puppet accounts all at the same time.
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  3. #3253
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    Quote Originally Posted by MrKimper View Post
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    pls stop trolling

    It's true that the same few people keep posting but, again, post count doesn't matter. I think it's fine to keep posting art just btw
    and kind of on a side note, make sure to credit the artists. I didn't think about that before but it's important to do.
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  4. #3254
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    I just think it's ridiculous, people come in here say "I HATE MALE VIERA I HOPE THEY DON'T GET ADDED, THE LORE SAYS THEY DON'T EXIST, NOBODY WANTS THEM" people disagree and argue then they call this a hug box or dismissive/delusional vocal minority, so people try to just ignore the obvious trolling/bait and talk about fanart then they say the thread is just spamming art and full of sexual SJW politicizing anti-gender norm deviants? as if sharing and creating content and art is bad for some reason, so people go into discussing body types and then they call posters thirsters who only want to ERP their debased homoerotic fantasies.

    How do you win this game?
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  5. #3255
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    I'm not against male Viera, but honestly, I wish that they would first update the damn creator with more features and implement better textures within the game. It's 2019, must everything new that's being added still look outdated and fuzzy?
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  6. #3256
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sigma-Astra View Post
    I'm not against male Viera, but honestly, I wish that they would first update the damn creator with more features and implement better textures within the game. It's 2019, must everything new that's being added still look outdated and fuzzy?
    I'm actually all for this as well, I've said it once, I'll say it again. I would have rather they just fixed the current races than add two "new" ones, Elezen REALLY needs a re-work and midlanders look really janky compared to the newer races also a muscle slider for Au ra.

    REMOVE SWIMMING LOADING SCREEN.
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  7. #3257
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    Quote Originally Posted by MrKimper View Post
    How do you win this game?
    You can't.

    I've already stated time and time again that people are more than welcome to come in here and share why they do not want male viera added to the game. If another poster replies to your comment disagreeing, then that isn't them being unreasonable. It's them having a disagreement. If there's someone coming in here to simply cause trouble and mock people, I tend to ignore it, but there are going to be some people who are upset by it. What do you expect lol

    Beki, in my opinion, it's ok for you to stick around and have a conversation about whether or not you want viera to be implemented. Just understand that this is a discussion, and some people will disagree with you and share their points as to why. -and you know what? It's fine for you to respond to their points with your own. No one is being unreasonable, delusional, or hostile.
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  8. #3258
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sigma-Astra View Post
    I'm not against male Viera, but honestly, I wish that they would first update the damn creator with more features and implement better textures within the game. It's 2019, must everything new that's being added still look outdated and fuzzy?
    I support more character customization features for sure.
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  9. #3259
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    Quote Originally Posted by MrKimper View Post
    I just think it's ridiculous, people come in here say "I HATE MALE VIERA I HOPE THEY DON'T GET ADDED, THE LORE SAYS THEY DON'T EXIST, NOBODY WANTS THEM"
    Literally never said that. nor have I stated that they should never be added. All I've ever said was that I pointed out before the Lore in FFXII, male veira literally never existed.

    and on top of that aside from literal trolls, everyone who is against including male veira have never stated they hate male veira but prefer that the race stay true to it's established lore in XIV. And before you *again* cite the Seeker of the Sun lore, it has been updated to include the fact males do adventure, it just adds they tend to lose their harems when they do (If they're a Nuhn).
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  10. #3260
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    Quote Originally Posted by Beki_Bayaqad View Post
    and on top of that aside from literal trolls, everyone who is against including male veira have never stated they hate male veira but prefer that the race stay true to it's established lore in XIV.
    I think MrKimper is referring to inflammatory posts like this

    Quote Originally Posted by kyomaZZ View Post
    still crying?
    what if i tell you that SE wont change their next expansion just because few western players want male bunny?
    I think your posts are fine. I may not agree with it, but it's fine for you to have that opinion.
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