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  1. #14351
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rokke View Post
    I don't see why they wouldn't. Haven't the last 2 Benchmarks allowed us to make or import a character for the test? I'll admit I don't really remember the SB one too clearly now, but I could have sworn it also had that option
    That was the case but they did complain about the amount of work with Endwalker and working on it "to the last minute" they said. So I hope and doubt it will happen at the same time.
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  2. #14352
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shinzo View Post
    That was the case but they did complain about the amount of work with Endwalker and working on it "to the last minute" they said. So I hope and doubt it will happen at the same time.
    We'll likely get a benchmark, but it won't be for a while. Probably not until about a month or even less before launch. None of the zones were even in a state to preview in the latest fan-fest.

    The Benchmark isn't a special trailer that they do for fun, it serves an important function. It lets people know how well they'll be able to run the game in the new content areas.
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  3. #14353
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    Rajesh Anand
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    I’m excited to see what their hairstyle options will be.

    Female Viera have 8 different hairstyle options. 7 of those options come with 2 variants, and one comes with 3 (including a helmeted variant).



    Notice how the official illustration art features 3 of those hairstyles.

    I’m not sure if male Viera will have as many variants aside from the helmeted one, but I think they will get at least 8 different hairstyle options.

    Looking at the trailer and official images, it seems 5 have already been revealed.

    This hairstyle was featured extensively in the trailer. They also gave us a look at how it would appear with additional dye.


    Though this hairstyle was not featured in the trailer, it is featured in the official male Veena render art. I think it’s safe to say that this hairstyle will be available as a playable option.


    This hairstyle was featured briefly in the trailer. It is a shorter style, and might end up being the shortest option.


    This one was also featured briefly in the trailer. It is on the shorter side, but is also more elaborate.


    Despite this hairstyle being obscured by the helmet, it is clearly different from the other hairstyles we’ve seen. It seems this will be a helmeted variant of the hairstyle featured in the official illustration art.


    If there is a total of 8 hairstyle options for male Viera, that means 3 haven’t been revealed yet. What do you think, or hope, they’ll be? And out of the ones we've seen so far, which one's your favorite?
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  4. #14354
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hunky View Post
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    All I'm seeing here are resources that could have been spent on 8 more female viera hairstyles - with resources to spare (as in new male hrothgar heads/hairs too). I hope you all like your hairstyles, because that's all they are getting for the next couple years, and they definitely aren't getting hats. probably.
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  5. #14355
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    Samniel Atkascha
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    I'm REALLY hoping none of the "male" hairstyles are gender-locked. Even the "short, messy bob" doesn't look like a Female Viera couldn't use it. Heck, the female Viera short hairstyle already looks more boyish than that one.

    From the hairstyles we've seen, the braided one is veeeery pretty, I wish we could see it from other angles.
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  6. #14356
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    It would be strange if female Viera gets bangs/no bangs option and male Viera doesn't. Hopefully they give us the no bangs look; as that is the popular/iconic Fran/FFXII Viera look.
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  7. #14357
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    Quote Originally Posted by SturmChurro View Post
    All I'm seeing here are resources that could have been spent on 8 more female viera hairstyles - with resources to spare (as in new male hrothgar heads/hairs too). I hope you all like your hairstyles, because that's all they are getting for the next couple years, and they definitely aren't getting hats. probably.
    I know the devs had to make a really difficult decision, and I think they made the decision they felt would make more players happy, and that was to make male Viera playable.

    I know that it must've taken a lot of time and effort. And I know they'll have their hands full with female Hrothgar as well and this too will impact hairstyle options for Viera (both male and female).

    With that being said, however, I would prefer they prioritize female Hrothgar over new hairstyles (even when I myself play as male Viera), simply because I believe genderlocking races should never be a thing (just like how genderlocking or racelocking classes/jobs should never be a thing). I trust that we'll have more options; things just have to happen at the right time.
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  8. #14358
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hunky View Post
    I know the devs had to make a really difficult decision, and I think they made the decision they felt would make more players happy, and that was to make male Viera playable.

    I know that it must've taken a lot of time and effort. And I know they'll have their hands full with female Hrothgar as well and this too will impact hairstyle options for Viera (both male and female).

    With that being said, however, I would prefer they prioritize female Hrothgar over new hairstyles (even when I myself play as male Viera), simply because I believe genderlocking races should never be a thing (just like how genderlocking or racelocking classes/jobs should never be a thing). I trust that we'll have more options; things just have to happen at the right time.
    I think it's the decision they thought would make them more money. Another limited race: more fantasia sales. No hairs: more fantasia sales. Female hrothgar a race relatively NOBODY will play, that will probably have the same amount of issues the (seemingly ignored) male hrothgar have, requiring fantasia to even change their singular hair.

    I'm sorry, BUT WHO CARES if viera and hrothgar were gender locked?! Like seriously. Viera were chosen over femhroth initially, and put on the backburner for male viera BECAUSE it's a big female furry race, that only a small niche will actually play, in my opinion. They stated female viera/male hroth was "the last chance" to add any new races to this game, yet out of left field they come out with male viera. Probably to satisfy a loud minority who spam them relentlessly over twitch, twitter, youtube, whatever. One hit wonder race, that will, ironically, be there as a 'SURPRISE' selling point for EW, because I don't see much else super exciting. ShB overall as an expansion was a joke (not the story), in my opinion. Everything feels half done, including the races.

    They have to have meetings just to figure out how they can more easily allocate resources for hairstyles, here's a suggestion of mine: How about not add male viera, promise female hrothgar, after also promising to add additional hairstyles, or customization options for female viera/male hrothgar two years prior! In my opinion.
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  9. #14359
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    Samniel Atkascha
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    Quote Originally Posted by SturmChurro View Post
    I'm sorry, BUT WHO CARES if viera and hrothgar were gender locked?! Like seriously. Viera were chosen over femhroth initially, and put on the backburner for male viera BECAUSE it's a big female furry race, that only a small niche will actually play, in my opinion. They stated female viera/male hroth was "the last chance" to add any new races to this game, yet out of left field they come out with male viera. Probably to satisfy a loud minority who spam them relentlessly over twitch, twitter, youtube, whatever. One hit wonder race, that will, ironically, be there as a 'SURPRISE' selling point for EW, because I don't see much else super exciting. ShB overall as an expansion was a joke (not the story), in my opinion. Everything feels half done, including the races.
    *Looks at 2 threads that each broke 1k likes, one which nears 2k, questions being asked every other interview, a couple of streaming personalities, and more*

    ...enough people, it seems.

    I'll try to say this as kindly and neutrally as possible but... you may want to take a step back and a little break because obviously the subject of Viera hairstyles is too important to you, but it doesn't mean you can shout down other people who got what they were hoping for for 2 years.
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  10. #14360
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    Quote Originally Posted by WhiteArchmage View Post
    *Looks at 2 threads that each broke 1k likes, one which nears 2k, questions being asked every other interview, a couple of streaming personalities, and more*

    ...enough people, it seems.

    I'll try to say this as kindly and neutrally as possible but... you may want to take a step back and a little break because obviously the subject of Viera hairstyles is too important to you, but it doesn't mean you can shout down other people who got what they were hoping for for 2 years.
    Yes, and? How many of those likes do you think will actually play male viera, or eventually female hrothgar? Even if every single like DID, 2k is NOTHING. Besides I highly doubt the devs actually read the English subforums, frankly.

    Am I not allowed to give my opinion on a public forum anymore? If people don't want to see my opinions, they can blacklist me.

    Also, I have included male hrothgar in every single one of my posts on this subject, it isn't just about hairstyles for female viera.
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