Male Viera as a playable character! show your support

[Alleo]

The Mr Happy interview with Yoshida was interesting. Yoshida said that they were uncertain as to how to implement male Viera (what body type, etc). In this thread there have been several different opinions. It would be nice perhaps if the dev team held a vote with concept art if they did decide to add male Viera. Everyone wouldn't be happy, but at least everyone's feedback would definitely be heard.

Yeah I honestly dont understand how they are like "but we dont know how to do one" when they never cared for our opinions about Au Ra or even Ronsos. Either they have their own vision and this is liked or not or they use ingame surveys or even official polls in the forum to get some ideas. It just shows how behind they are with such things.

Also already over 1.300 likes. Wow never thougth to ever see that many likes for one post. Even the female ronso thread has nearly 1k likes. Hopefully that is enough to make them change their opinion and hopefully we wont have to wait another full expansion for it.

[Kazran]

I Support Male Vierra.

(And of course female hrothgar)

Gender locking is a dumb move!

I hope if the do add Male viera one clan is the tall manly type and the other is the small cute type!

[KittenMittens]

I hope more people continue to post within this and the female Hrothgar thread rather than create their own, it makes the argument for these genders stronger with a larger page and like count!

[niteypants]

Remember, there will be many more expansions to come. The idea that removing the gender lock is unfeasible due to limited development resources is therefore not true. Money can be moved around, projects changed, and timelines shifted.

It's a question of priorities and not resources. We need to keep the demand tempo for both genders high enough so that Square realizes this is a top priority and not an afterthought or a flex goal.

[UnlistedOdin]

Just kind of funny how much attention this is producing even though when Viera was first released in FF tactics advanced. It was literally introduced as a female only race. This whole argument about gender race locking in a mmo or any game with back lore estabilished then changed to appease the few is so silly. Can't people just enjoy a game anymore just for the entertainment value? Times like this make me miss the 90's when games were all about gameplay, and not reliant on appeasing the few on graphics, and such.

[Lauront]

Friendly reminder to keep contributing to the poll here for the newcomers.

[Kelryth]

For those who didn't play FFXIV 1.0 here is an 8 part retrospective by Youtuber: Speaker's Network.
Link: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?lis...x4HT5oBemN23vr


Please Mr. Yoshida. Give us male Viera and female Hrothgar!

[JoyfulSong]

People throwing literal tantrums and threatening Yoshida and the other members of the Dev Team because they didn't get their way. You guys ought to be ashamed of yourselves, and if this is the way you're going to behave, maybe you should reconsider going somewhere more your age group. At the end, this is a game, but most people come here to have a good time and escape--and screaming and crying and threatening people because you didn't get EXACTLY what you wanted is utterly childish.

Yes, people who are transgender or going through gender dysphoria are having a rough road IRL across the globe for a number of social/political reasons too complicated to get into. (If you don't know for yourself, I recommend going to YouTube and looking up the Channel "ContraPoints." It's good to be educated, even if you're not going through these things yourself! Compassion and understanding help the world move forward!)
But a company halfway around the world, that has been around for nearly 30 years, didn't rub their hands together in one division and decide to give you all the middle finger. They're not attacking you, so PLEASE, stop taking the game so g0ddamn SERIOUSLY. Nobody's attacking you here. In fact, in the most polite way I can say this? Most people here on Final Fantasy XIV hardly care what gender you identify as, or who you love, as long as you're not acting like an @ss--and unfortunately a lot of people ARE acting like that.

Those people screeching that they're not paying their subs because they didn't get their way makes me think of a toddler throwing a tantrum. Y'all should be ashamed and embarrassed. Lord knows the rest of us are when we read your...opinions. There's a line between asking better and asking more from your hard-working Development Team, and being a spoiled, whiny child, and a **TON** of people are toeing that line. A lot more are stomping all over it.

Makes me think we don't deserve it tbh. I wouldn't give a classroom candy if 2/3rds of them were threatening my family and screeching like banshees because they didn't get something exactly the way they wanted it.
I support Male Viera, but not for the people SCREAMING that "u DoNt SuPpOrT mY gEnDeR iDeNtItY" and certainly not for the people who have been slamming their fists on the table demanding Viera since early 2.1. As far as I'm concerned, those guys are acting like spoiled brats.

[DevilsDontFly]

Over 1000 upvotes in less than a week though, and that's considering that a huge part of the playberbase don't really use the forums. If this isn't enough feedback for SE on top of the dozens of tweets, discord discussions, thousand+ upvotes and coments on reddit and the huge amount of youtube videos and gaming articles in regards to male Viera and female Hrothgar, then I don't know what else they want to be sure the playerbase would like the missing genders.

[Alleo]

Remember, there will be many more expansions to come. The idea that removing the gender lock is unfeasible due to limited development resources is therefore not true. Money can be moved around, projects changed, and timelines shifted.

It's a question of priorities and not resources. We need to keep the demand tempo for both genders high enough so that Square realizes this is a top priority and not an afterthought or a flex goal.

Of course we will probably have more expansions and with this feedback there is a much higher chance to get the two missing genders in the next one. But at least for me, the one expansion after shadowbringers is over two years away. Thats two years where I (who wants to play a female beast race) will see the male version running around while knowing that I cant play the female version of it. And it really dampers my motivation to keep up the sub. And its not helping that we now know that the Viera was the afterthought and not the Ronsos. Thus the dream of a female beast character could have finally become true, only to be destroyed by a sexy bunny girl. (Not that I blame the players that wanted those)