Male Viera as a playable character! show your support

[LisSquid]

My big problem with G'raha is that he constantly humps your leg and if my WoL had any agency he would be doused with the squirt bottle.

I don't think male viera would be effeminate in the way people think (or in some cases it's want). Even though some design choices are not by western standards, SE still draws the line there. Lalas are allowed to be cute, but they want their men manly.

[SturmChurro]

My big problem with G'raha is that he constantly humps your leg and if my WoL had any agency he would be doused with the squirt bottle.

I don't think male viera would be effeminate in the way people think (or in some cases it's want). Even though some design choices are not by western standards, SE still draws the line there. Lalas are allowed to be cute, but they want their men manly.

Yeah, for sure. G'raha Tia is so annoying. The hero worship is too much, and SE has been pushing him on us for fan service. If he behaved more like the Crystal Exarch it wouldn't be so bad.

I don't think male viera would be effeminate, I was just referring to specifically the big fluffy ears on top of their heads. I think they would probably be pretty masculine, and confident. Tall, rugged. My biggest issue with them, is the limited status they would no doubt be put into. Just like female viera, no hats, hairs, nothing. Over time, the limited status has become a gigantic hindrance for me. It's probably the fact that it's been going on TWO years, and we still haven't had a SINGLE update for female viera. It really makes the future of the race(s) bleak.

I don't think SE really makes their males too manly. Boyish sure, but a lot of their outfits are also pretty feminine. God, if only we could play as the WoD from the ShB benchmark. Now that would be to die for.



He looks so cool! The stubble! Why SE?! False advertising!

Don't get me wrong I wouldn't play a male on my main, even if. Too many female outfits, but my alt..

[Juzjuzz]

Graha tia is a bad example to explain why cat ears are just "cute" for some ppl, because the story shows all his cute side and sensible side. He's litterally "cute catboy" now, his design shows that. His ears are here to show his emotions all the time.

But it's true that miqote show more emotions than almost any other race (miqote are not cat-human btw, more feline-human just like hrothgar are not just lions). That doesnt mean they are more sensible it's just easier to see.

Male au ra will be naturally more mysterious, because it's harder to show emotions as much as miqote wihtout the same tools. They horns won't move. Same for humans etc.

Ppl tend to see emotions as weakness, even more for men. So i kind of understand why some ppl will think male miqo are cuter. Even if i dont agree.

But if you think fluffly ears are feminine because it's fluffy... It's just ears with fur on it, and it's not like the male viera will put new ears just to look cute, it's just there. Comparing miqo and viera to human wearing cat ears/bunny ears type is the wrong abroach. They are not humans even if they are very close to it, that's the goal.

[Alleo]

Its equally boring to suggest that Fantasy races should all be renegades against their culture.

It not like the rest of the race could still stick to their culture while the WoL is special anyways. Heck they even could use this for conflict by having NPCs react very different towards a male viera but seeing as just a page or two back someone listed all the stuff the game does not care about I honestly doubt that this would be the case.

Anyways Matsuno himself stated that he was not against male vieras thus it was not his decision to keep them out. Who knows maybe he would even be really existed about them too.

[WhiteArchmage]

Anyways Matsuno himself stated that he was not against male vieras thus it was not his decision to keep them out. Who knows maybe he would even be really existed about them too.

He would and he is. Some 5 or 6 hundred pages back people posted from his twitter when he kept retweeting male Viera fanart and even commisioned one himself. He's on board with the idea.

[SavishSalacious]

Keep viera as female please. Every FF game has them as female so let’s not mess with lore. I’m sure there are males some where but we do not care. This is final fantasy, not do as we say game. Leave your leftist ideology out of this game.

[LisSquid]

Leave your leftist ideology out of this game.

[Crushnight]

Keep viera as female please. Every FF game has them as female so let’s not mess with lore. I’m sure there are males some where but we do not care. This is final fantasy, not do as we say game. Leave your leftist ideology out of this game.

Please keep your American politics out of this Japanese developed game and this English speaking sub section of the forums.

[UsagiAndCrepes]

The support is still going but I don't think there was any indication that they would actually do it.

It would be nice if viera had more than like 3 popular hair styles and could wear some hats. I thought they actually did say they would include more hair styles with updates and try to figure something out for the hats. Even the showcase art only showed one of the standard styles.

So maybe they will bring male viera to the moon but they're keeping it super secret, and maybe they will only have 2 hairstyles and can only wear monocles. Anything is possible at this stage.

[Veritas-Ancora]

The support is still going but I don't think there was any indication that they would actually do it.

This doesn't matter to me, honestly.

I want them to know how passionately I want this.

Everyone else wants to do the same.

If we stopped posting here, they'd assume we stopped caring and want other things.

The truth is, we still want it. And even if it doesn't make it into this game (pandemic considerations and all), they will continue to know we have been asking for over two years.

Most importantly, this is the largest forum post of FFXIV's entire history, so that's something to be proud of accomplishing.