Male Viera as a playable character! show your support

[SomeRandomHuman]

Yes, but the two genders are indistinguishable nonetheless, so they fit the bill. Besides, I mentioned two other options regardless. You could still get miqo'te males in there too with the softer faces.

No matter which way you spin it male Midlander with low tone still has an average build. Not that I said Build. We have plenty of youthful faces in game already. What I would like to see is a more delicate body type on a male. People use Alphinaud as a reference due to him being designed to be around the age of 16-17*. While I don't support the idea of an underaged race(Lala's saving grace is it's chibi aesthetic) I do support a frailer body type for males.

*Please note that generally by age 16-17 your body is pretty much done growing physically.

I personally have issues with Elezen's proportions and height range. Not to mention they look a little bulkier than they probably should since they're supposed to be a thinner race. All they look like is a midlander stretched out too far to make them look thinner with pointy ears and less face variety.

[Amnmaat]

No matter which way you spin it male Midlander with low tone still has an average build. Not that I said Build. We have plenty of youthful faces in game already. What I would like to see is a more delicate body type on a male. People use Alphinaud as a reference due to him being designed to be around the age of 16-17*. While I don't support the idea of an underaged race(Lala's saving grace is it's chibi aesthetic) I do support a frailer body type for males.

*Please note that generally by age 16-17 your body is pretty much done growing physically.

I personally have issues with Elezen's proportions and height range. Not to mention they look a little bulkier than they probably should since they're supposed to be a thinner race. All they look like is a midlander stretched out too far to make them look thinner with pointy ears and less face variety.

Shorter and skinnier than male Elezen is basically Alphinaud.

[SomeRandomHuman]

Shorter and skinnier than male Elezen is basically Alphinaud.

Except it's not? There's plenty of men out there with a build smaller than elezen in height and bulk that isn't child-like.

[Amnmaat]

Except it's not? There's plenty of men out there with a build smaller than elezen in height and bulk that isn't child-like.

That would make them smaller than female Viera. Last thing we need is a repeat of male Au ra female Au ra demorphism. Skinnier than Elezen would start to look like a teenager.
Goddamn, I didn't think I'd have to bring this back haha

[SomeRandomHuman]

That would make them smaller than female Viera. Last thing we need is a repeat of male Au ra female Au ra demorphism. Skinnier than Elezen would start to look like a teenager.
Goddamn, I didn't think I'd have to bring this back haha

I fail to understand the mentality that a jungle warrior MUST be this large built ultra buff male. If you look at tribal folk in the real world they look more like Midlander males than a lot of what I've seen proposed.

And a classic thing. "They'll look like a teenager." Last I check not all small chested women look like teenagers.

[Amnmaat]

I fail to understand the mentality that a jungle warrior MUST be this large built ultra buff male. If you look at tribal folk in the real world they look more like Midlander males than a lot of what I've seen proposed.

Western "jungle people" are mostly extinct. We have no real idea what they looked like in terms of muscles before european invasions; what you see in disney movies is just myth and fantasy. The ones in Afrika however were buff as hell.
Ultimately this isn't about the real world, this is about how skinny male Elezen are already, skinnier than that is teenage territory, and you know this is true. And you make it worse when you say you want them to be shorter than male Elezen.

Last I check not all small chested women look like teenagers.

Yes they do unless they're old.

[Yencat]

I fail to understand the mentality that a jungle warrior MUST be this large built ultra buff male. If you look at tribal folk in the real world they look more like Midlander males than a lot of what I've seen proposed.

And a classic thing. "They'll look like a teenager." Last I check not all small chested women look like teenagers.

I don't think many people would have an issue with Elezen-lite male Viera, that's basically what female Viera are as well; tall but still below Elezen height range and better proportioned.

But people are very specifically asking for reverse Au Ra (ie: very short compared to the women), very slim, with androgynous facial features, all the while pretending that would somehow not make them appear like a teenager. Something SE has explicitly said they will not be doing. They could be short, slim, but still have very clearly older/mature faces but somehow I suspect that's not the fantasy most people asking for this are going for.

[SomeRandomHuman]

Western "jungle people" are mostly extinct. We have no real idea what they looked like in terms of muscles before european invasions; what you see in disney movies is just myth and fantasy. The ones in Afrika however were buff as hell.
Ultimately this isn't about the real world, this is about how skinny male Elezen are already, skinnier than that is teenage territory, and you know this is true. And you make it worse when you say you want them to be shorter than male Elezen.


Yes they do unless they're old.

I mean, height has no bearing on age and you know this is true.

If they fixed Elezen's weird proportions I wouldn't have any issues with then. I work with people taller than elezen and their necks are shorter still.

Honestly if they just did a male with midlander/miqo'te height with the leaner build that they tried for with elezen I'd be a happy camper.

The fact of the matter is we have an oddly large gap between male builds in 2 spots: From Miqo'te to Lalafell and Highlander To hrothgar.

[Amnmaat]

If they fixed Elezen's weird proportions I wouldn't have any issues with then. I work with people taller than elezen and their necks are shorter still.

Honestly if they just did a male with midlander/miqo'te height with the leaner build that they tried for with elezen I'd be a happy camper.

[SomeRandomHuman]

I'd be lying if I said I wouldn't be happy if Male viera ended up being really feminine and cutesy, but I just know that is pretty much not happening.

A while back in the thread someone photoshop'd a miqo'te face onto elezen and fixed the odd body proportions and I thought that would be perfect for male viera. Obviously I think they need to have some face variety regardless of what they go with.