Male Viera as a playable character! show your support

[Zanarkand-Ronso]

Why? Because somebody, as you gave for the example (although there are several people), can't read a thread's title.

The name is Support and NOT Discussion.

It's not "Do you want male Viera playable? Let's discuss", but the title you can read up there when you scroll a little.

(That ever-returning obstacle really frustrates me, I must say.)

I honestly wonder:
Do you guys waltz to a demonstration of your buddies - just in order to hold up a banner that's entirely the opposite to what said companions are there for?
(If your answer is Yes, I'll eat a broom.)

Also, if so many people decide to ignore the thread's purpose, I could also play Wild West--- ergo, post left and right screenshots of my Male-Elezen-cosplays-a-Viera-alt or the fresh female-Viera-pretends-to-be-a-guy-alt. And you all weren't allowed to complain about it; according to your own behaviour. xP

Your on an Open Forum, forums are for discussion. Unless the thread is locked or Heavily Policed with an Iron Fist, discussion on both ends will commence.
Doesn't matter what the topic is, and this happens in real life to. Although, some of those "Demonstrations" as you wanna call them have security and actually have Policed rules. This is an Open Forum, no such rule exists unless a Mod or an Admin Dictates it.

Im not sure if I can call this a Strawman argument...but it kinda shoots over what Im trying to say. Yes, this is a Male Viera Support Thread, but that doesn't mean somebody can't come in and start or join discussions about if they agree with the idea of Male Viera, how they would/could be implemented, and whatnot. Discussion doesn't ignore the Threads Purpose, Its stays on topic about Male Viera, and these Discussions you seem to not want to happen, have helped Expand this thread, which brings more attention to it.

[MelodyCrystel]

Discussion doesn't ignore the Threads Purpose, Its stays on topic about Male Viera, and these Discussions you seem to not want to happen, have helped Expand this thread, which brings more attention to it.

The recent budget-expansion-conversation clearly does not match this thread at all when there's already a current spot for this very matter.
Furthermore, it's no good attention at all, when some forum-users waltz every now and then into this bunny-boy-support-corner JUST to shoot the hopes of others down with belittling comments a la you-won't-get-them-ever-so-stop-dreaming-dummies.

Is it so absurd to respect the good-natured intention of this thread and simply SUPPORT the wish for playable males? If it is, then tell me why people even click this thread. Only for being cynical?

When I click this thread, I want to see interesting fan-concepts (text, sketches, cosplays) and read ideas how things could be implemented ingame. Yet, many things on all these pages imply that several people have more fun turning a sweet-attempt-of-a-thread into a text-accumulation against the original purpose.

So often I hear is "discussion", "discussion", "discussion"... You want to discuss? Then discuss the really fascinating stuff - like in, would male Viera have faces similar soft to the Miqo'te-boys or more adult like Elezen-men. Or how buff /muscular a Hroth-lady would be, in case you honestly want to expand the conversation. There's also the question, what a default outfit for the two of them could be.

[Nhisso]

No. This race is garbage and should be removed from the game completely. Unfortunately, i cant talk about the kind of people this race appeals to because the snowflakes would melt and the mods would have a meltdown

[Nhisso]

The recent budget-expansion-conversation clearly does not match this thread at all when there's already a current spot for this very matter.
Furthermore, it's no good attention at all, when some forum-users waltz every now and then into this bunny-boy-support-corner JUST to shoot the hopes of others down with belittling comments a la you-won't-get-them-ever-so-stop-dreaming-dummies.

Is it so absurd to respect the good-natured intention of this thread and simply SUPPORT the wish for playable males? If it is, then tell me why people even click this thread. Only for being cynical?

When I click this thread, I want to see interesting fan-concepts (text, sketches, cosplays) and read ideas how things could be implemented ingame. Yet, many things on all these pages imply that several people have more fun turning a sweet-attempt-of-a-thread into a text-accumulation against the original purpose.

So often I hear is "discussion", "discussion", "discussion"... You want to discuss? Then discuss the really fascinating stuff - like in, would male Viera have faces similar soft to the Miqo'te-boys or more adult like Elezen-men. Or how buff /muscular a Hroth-lady would be, in case you honestly want to expand the conversation. There's also the question, what a default outfit for the two of them could be.

That is some serious b.s.. Wow. Your last sentences prove that much. Imagine being so offended that people on an open forum didn't follow your ridiculous rules. Stereotypes getting mad. LOL.

[Senn]

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Well, yeah, it's not good to spam - like in the streams and etc, but no one here is really doing that so it's kind of like... why even bring this up? The front pages of this thread have a lot of people overreacting and accusing the devs of things (which I don't agree with), ok, but we've moved past that. I don't really condone that kind of behavior.

No. This race is garbage and should be removed from the game completely. Unfortunately, i cant talk about the kind of people this race appeals to because the snowflakes would melt and the mods would have a meltdown

That's cool if you don't want them included, but I'd really like to know what kind of people this race appeals to in your opinion? You say you can't say it, but just be chill about it and maybe you'll be fine.

[WhiteArchmage]

I mean, said poster just proved Melody's point about some users just coming to the thread to bash people for wanting a race. While yes, a discussion forum invites discussion, it's one thing to politely disagree (which has indeed happened) and another to intentionally bash or bait people over preferences (which has also been very common).

Also, it bears repeating that there was too much time between Viera and Hroth announcement, so posters were preparing for the worst, and the silence until Yoshi's interview post-Hroth-reveal made people very tense. If we'd known "technical limitations" before the whole <kupo>fest, the initial response would probably have been calmer, as it did calm down once Yoshi said they were trying to appease two different sides of the fanbase and they'd listen to the feedback.

[Zanarkand-Ronso]

--The recent budget-expansion-conversation clearly does not match this thread at all
--Is it so absurd to respect the good-natured intention of this thread and simply SUPPORT the wish for playable males? If it is, then tell me why people even click this thread. Only for being cynical?
--When I click this thread, I want to see interesting fan-concepts (text, sketches, cosplays) and read ideas how things could be implemented ingame. Yet, many things on all these pages imply that several people have more fun turning a sweet-attempt-of-a-thread into a text-accumulation against the original purpose.
--So often I hear is "discussion", "discussion", "discussion"... You want to discuss? Then discuss the really fascinating stuff - like in, would male Viera have faces similar soft to the Miqo'te-boys or more adult like Elezen-men. Or how buff /muscular a Hroth-lady would be, in case you honestly want to expand the conversation. There's also the question, what a default outfit for the two of them could be.

-I wonder why...its as if thats a different thread...
-We've already been over this....this thread is on an Open Forum. Forums are for discussion.
-You do, You have, and you will, when people choose to post such things. Same goes for anybody who has an opposite opinion.
The Negativity only happens when you engage in it. You can easily ignore people who spout negativity, and keep the Conversation going on Supporting Male viera.
Just Support Male Viera, dont engage in Fights. Why is this such a Difficult Concept?
-You say that like Discussion is such a bad thing, lol my lord. That conversation has happened MULTIPLE times! Sad you weren't around to join that discussion.
Good Discussion happens here. Just because a handful of bad and negative people show up doesn't mean Discussion cant happen.

[Zanarkand-Ronso]

So often I hear is "discussion", "discussion", "discussion"... You want to discuss? Then discuss the really fascinating stuff - like in, would male Viera have faces similar soft to the Miqo'te-boys or more adult like Elezen-men. Or how buff /muscular a Hroth-lady would be, in case you honestly want to expand the conversation. There's also the question, what a default outfit for the two of them could be.

Felt like making another Separate post...
Personally, Im part of Team No-Male Viera, for the Lore Standpoint. I personally believe that if we had Male Viera present, it should be through a Mainline FF game at least 1st. That being said, at the same time Im not completely against it if done right. Like if the Empire is up to something that would literally inspire The Male Viera to come out of the Woods to Join the Fight; Sacrificing the Laws of the Forest and Loosing her Voice in order to Protect it. Something like that would make for Compelling Lore, and they could then start to join the Females out on adventures around the world. Even if some of them try to return to the forests despite losing the Voice of the Forest.
Then I have my own thoughts on how they would look, there is a picture someone made Id have to dig up that I think would be perfect bodywise. I see them as more Masculine like the Au-ra, but Height-wise I think they should be about the same as the Females.
Honestly, Im not clothing Master, so in talks of Default Clothing, Im lost there and cant contribute.

Then, they are separate from the Viera, but if talking about Female Hrothgar, Im pulling for them to follow in the footsteps of the Male Roe Body, and so give the Females the Female Roe Body. Id personally love to see Masculine Beast Ladies instead of soft and cute. And my god, if the Females have cute, soft Human Faces, I might break something. Lol
Clothing on them, the best I can muster, not being good with fashion, is something similar to the Miqote. But instead of a Skirt, some Pants, or even Shorts.

See? Even though Im techincally on the Opposite side of this discussion, I can still add to it and not Fan Flames of Hate.
Though I might Shitpost and troll every so often.

[MelodyCrystel]

[BunniEclair]

This is...adorable~