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[Anvaire]

What worries me is how they are saying adding them will impact development across the board.

I think they are referring to the adjustment of any equipment to fit each race. I think perhaps that is why YP has said these will likely be the last races. I suspect though that they have already factored in adding the other genders regardless. Incidentally, every job added will affect every patch going forward as it means creating another weapon for each new job. While I don't deny what they are saying is true, I think this is smoke and mirrors as any addition to the game will affect future patches - I think its more valid to view this as not able to do yet.

The important thing to note is that YP has acknowledged the desire for the missing genders, that it is still there. He says that he can say no more at this time on the subject which could be seen that they have made no progress and the situation is the same, or that they are working on them and will announce them when the time is right. The important facet is the acknowledgment that A the feedback has been given and received and B they will try to incorporate it despite it being hard. The "We are doing our best... but this is all I can say now." is structured oddly, and on a grammatical front, the elipse suggests there is more to say. That elipse is not required for the sentence that follows, so why include it? It could also be the article publisher, but I assume that the responses are provided in English by Square Enix directly and therefore its inclusion is deliberate.

[TheMightyMollusk]

Every time Yoshi-P has said something definite and then plans changed later, the fans have thrown it back in his face. Small wonder he's being vaguer about it now.

[Crushnight]

What worries me is how they are saying adding them will impact development across the board.

Given that he deliberately said it affects subsequent patches meaning if they were to do the missing genders, the expansion they release in would feel like what Shadowbringers has been like.

The big question would be could the player base handle it again?

[Halivel]

Given that he deliberately said it affects subsequent patches meaning if they were to do the missing genders, the expansion they release in would feel like what Shadowbringers has been like.

The big question would be could the player base handle it again?

Shadowbringers is good so far even with some of its issues, though. And we're at 5.25, so "has been like" is a bit... early to say, no?

[zeylos]

I'm really hopeful given the new content that we will see a male Viera / Female Hrothgar reveal. But more so due to this



Source: https://massivelyop.com/2020/04/07/o...d-yusuke-mogi/

The take away for me though is this line:

"I am aware of the desire to include a different gender of each of these races, but I’m afraid this feedback is not something we can easily incorporate. We are doing our best, but… that’s about all I can say now."

To me, it suggests they are trying to include them and at the moment it makes sense to not be able to confirm anything at this stage... if they are coming, we won't get a hard confirmation until the fan festival or an in-game reveal like Fran/yugiri. (Though i think these came after the Fanfest announcement)

I'm very happy to see this response. This means they are at least trying to add them (makes no sense to confirm or deny it, since not only is it possible that something like loss of data or sudden limitations occurs, but also makes no sense to waste the hype which will be insane) and they will do everything they can to do so. Makes me think they're working on it, and if they started working on it at, probably, 5.1, means we will hopefully see them added at 6.0

[Crushnight]

Shadowbringers is good so far even with some of its issues, though. And we're at 5.25, so "has been like" is a bit... early to say, no?

Quality is something I don't find Shadowbringers to have an issue with its quantity that is Shadowbringers biggest flaw.

That is what would most likely be the issue for the expansion they decide to release the missing genders if they do decide to do them. That is what the player base has to decide for itself do they mind having another expansion with a quantity issue.

[zeylos]

Quality is something I don't find Shadowbringers to have an issue with its quantity that is Shadowbringers biggest flaw.

That is what would most likely be the issue for the expansion they decide to release the missing genders if they do decide to do them. That is what the player base has to decide for itself do they mind having another expansion with a quantity issue.

They are saying heyre working hard to see if they can implement them, so I wouldn't be surprised if even if they cant add them at 6.0, they're going to be taxed from making the models etc

[Halivel]

Quality is something I don't find Shadowbringers to have an issue with its quantity that is Shadowbringers biggest flaw.

That is what would most likely be the issue for the expansion they decide to release the missing genders if they do decide to do them. That is what the player base has to decide for itself do they mind having another expansion with a quantity issue.

Well, maybe that's just me, but I would prefer maybe a bit less in amount, but a better quality content, than a tone of middle or even so-so one. I don't believe in a fairy tail called "fast, cheap, perfect", so the moment they will decide to make "good + a lot" every patch while also parallely working on a content for new expansions, I will get ready for a things like subscription fee raising.

Also knowing how greedy the gaming communities in general can be, and ours is no exception (some people already cry about no 2nd Ultimate and so long and all, despite the 2nd Ultimate of SB being released in 4.36, which would make for a 5.36 release for ShB), the more they add with each new patch, the more people would ask for, while also saying that the sub is so expensive they don't see it worth (despite the fact it's still the same price since 2013).

Of course I can talk only for myself. It's up to SE to decide what they want to do. So far they seem to prefer quality over quantity, but we'll see how they will handle upcoming expnasions yet.

[Crushnight]

Well, maybe that's just me, but I would prefer maybe a bit less in amount, but a better quality content, than a tone of middle or even so-so one. I don't believe in a fairy tail called "fast, cheap, perfect", so the moment they will decide to make "good + a lot" every patch while also parallely working on a content for new expansions, I will get ready for a things like subscription fee raising.

Also knowing how greedy the gaming communities in general can be, and ours is no exception (some people already cry about no 2nd Ultimate and so long and all, despite the 2nd Ultimate of SB being released in 4.36, which would make for a 5.36 release for ShB), the more they add with each new patch, the more people would ask for, while also saying that the sub is so expensive they don't see it worth (despite the fact it's still the same price since 2013).

Of course I can talk only for myself. It's up to SE to decide what they want to do. So far they seem to prefer quality over quantity, but we'll see how they will handle upcoming expnasions yet.

Actually 2nd ultimate was released in 4.31 2 weeks after 4.3 launched and tbf they said not one scheduled for 5.3 but could very well come in a later patch Shadowbringers is far from over afterall.

Personally i'd rather have no issue but a quantity one is the least awful to me as that means what was there was enjoyable I just wanted more, that is Shadowbringers to me, i've enjoyed this expansion I just wish there was more and at this point in other expansions there was, so I think it is a concern going forward and one people have to weigh up appropriately for themselves, that interview is very enlightening with what is likely the cost of female Viera and male Hrothgar and it is up to individuals if they are willing to pay that cost again for male Viera and female Hrothgar.

[Awha]

Given that he deliberately said it affects subsequent patches meaning if they were to do the missing genders, the expansion they release in would feel like what Shadowbringers has been like.

The big question would be could the player base handle it again?

That is my fear, generally I do feel outside of the lore aspect shadowbringers was relative lite on terms of fleshed out contact. A lot of seems more like a Beta, and if that is because of how much strain adding the two races caused, while I would love for Male and female variants if it is at the cost of another lore rich but beta esq feeling expansion I will say as a consumer not sure that is a trade off I am looking to make.