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  1. #11141
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arngrim_Greyashe View Post
    Looks like that comment from Zeylos, and all related ones were removed. Probably for the best.
    Yeah....it was a pretty bad take.
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  2. #11142
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    Quote Originally Posted by Allegor View Post
    I somehow doubt that. If anything, it's the macho archetype what they seem to dislike. Bishonen boys are everywhere and very popular so my guess would be it's not because they'd be feminine (which, lorewise, they'd be far from), but because they're specifically bunny people.
    It depends a lot on what people find feminine and what not, tbh. Just as example, some of players from my country find male Miqo'te feminine just because of their shorter than average height and because of their classic "ikemen" faces, completely ignoring their body type and animations. If anything, male Viera most likely would fall into the same area, with the difference of being tall and maybe having more "stiff" emotions. They still would be "handsome man" type by face, according to Yoshida own description of them (elezen height and proportions + miqo'te faces).

    As for the macho archetype.... oof. It's not that they don't like it. Half of available options are actually pretty much this (Highlanders, Roegadyns, Hrothgars, Au Ra to some extent with more model type vibes). It's more that they seem to have issues with working with them, or, rather, not having enough knowledge about what people would excpet to see in this archetype face-wise at least.

    Quote Originally Posted by Arngrim_Greyashe View Post
    Looks like that comment from Zeylos, and all related ones were removed. Probably for the best.
    I missed something interesting, apparently.
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  3. #11143
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    Quote Originally Posted by Halivel View Post
    I missed something interesting, apparently.
    Nah, just the cyclical theme of this thread - something something sexism
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    Quote Originally Posted by Halivel View Post
    I missed something interesting, apparently.
    Just something someone shouldn't have said and was rightly lambasted by everyone for it.

    But hey one good thing came out of it we know the moderators are still reading this thread
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  5. #11145
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    Quote Originally Posted by Crushnight View Post
    Just something someone shouldn't have said and was rightly lambasted by everyone for it.

    But hey one good thing came out of it we know the moderators are still reading this thread
    Maybe that means one day I will see a lion woman with thighs that will crush empires...One can dream...
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    “We are all in the gutter, but some of us are looking at the stars.”

    ― Oscar Wilde

  6. #11146
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    i wouldnt call it the cycle of this Thread more so cycle of Zeylos
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  7. #11147
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    Quote Originally Posted by reivaxe View Post
    Oh, there was another mass deletion that I missed?

    Wonder what the topic was, this thread runs through cycles like the phases of the moon.
    Let's just say it involved calling all of Japan sexist.
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  8. #11148
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arngrim_Greyashe View Post
    Let's just say it involved calling all of Japan sexist.
    Which is... maybe not entirely wrong, but still kind of bold to say, considering that it's usually them who implements the most "wild" things into games (wedding attires gender unlock and 2B dress, hello), along with also some Korean MMOs. Like okay, they do this out of demand and maybe jokingly a bit, but still, they actually do this, unlike many Western games. /shrug
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  9. #11149
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    Quote Originally Posted by Halivel View Post
    Which is... maybe not entirely wrong, but still kind of bold to say, considering that it's usually them who implements the most "wild" things into games (wedding attires gender unlock and 2B dress, hello), along with also some Korean MMOs. Like okay, they do this out of demand and maybe jokingly a bit, but still, they actually do this, unlike many Western games. /shrug
    Some practices could be seen that way, but no, calling the whole country sexist is wrong.
    And some people pointed that out to the person
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  10. #11150
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zanarkand-Ronso View Post
    Some practices could be seen that way, but no, calling the whole country sexist is wrong.
    And some people pointed that out to the person
    True. Not to mention that there are plenty of things in the West that can be considered this way as well, yet no one screams that "the entire Europe" or "the entire US" are sexist (at least not at this Forum..??). I could say that I hope that Zeylos is will ever reconsider his opinion about the matter, but my hopes are honestly low.
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