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    VillainQueen's Avatar
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    Yorshka Agriche
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    Shiva
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    Quote Originally Posted by oiyum View Post
    well, we dont. but we do have several concept drawings that can give us a good approximation of how they would look. no matter what the adult oriented part of the otome community is like, fact is that those kinds of designs are still associated more with gay men than straight women, and sometimes considered gross or weird because gay men find them attractive, not straight women.
    And that's the part you make it all about you. Because concept drawing was the typical ikemen aesthetic (fit build, more feminine face ect.) and going by what we heard about them they seem more vicious in nature than sexy seductive anyways. But you really seem to want to make it about gay man. Maybe you guys are not even a big enough demographic to really cater too in FFXIV and yet if something you like isn't going to happen you make it an issue about your community even though many girls and even straight man thought that it looked good and wanted it too. If you are a minority deal with not being the focus, that is how it is. It's not political. So instead of having a weird group mentality join in with the full playerbase that is in favor of it and we might get something.
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    CyrusStarChaser's Avatar
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    Niam Aislinn
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    Lamia
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    Rogue Lv 60
    Genderlocking in this day and age feels less like something normal and more like we just got half a race for no reason. Hopefully the dev team will give serious thought to added male viera and female hrothgar.
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    Sajah Awandah
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    Odin
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    Where the "they just didn't want to break lore" argument falls apart for me is that they themselves are the ones making the lore in XIV - they can, and do, make it or change it however they like, even with lore from past games. The only exception would be if higher-ups were forcing them with what to do lorewise but I don't see any proof of that.
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    Shilnarf Silmornif
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    Quote Originally Posted by sajah View Post
    Where the "they just didn't want to break lore" argument falls apart for me is that they themselves are the ones making the lore in XIV - they can, and do, make it or change it however they like, even with lore from past games. The only exception would be if higher-ups were forcing them with what to do lorewise but I don't see any proof of that.
    I mean, that's not even counting the fact that hrothgar in lore would count as a beast tribe based on description alone. I believe it's been stated multiple times that the only reason miqo'te weren't more heavily persecuted was because they looked far more humanoid and stayed to themselves.

    Sidurgu's family was slaughtered on sight in ishgard so i can't imagine how weird it is in lore to have literal beastmen walking around in city states. Even in the lupin are restricted to yanxia from what I know, and the blue kojin are only allowed due to trade correct? for ARR zones like ul'dah it seems sort of weird.
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    Xuan'li Minh
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    Zalera
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    Ninja Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by MrKimper View Post
    I mean, that's not even counting the fact that hrothgar in lore would count as a beast tribe based on description alone. I believe it's been stated multiple times that the only reason miqo'te weren't more heavily persecuted was because they looked far more humanoid and stayed to themselves.

    Sidurgu's family was slaughtered on sight in ishgard so i can't imagine how weird it is in lore to have literal beastmen walking around in city states. Even in the lupin are restricted to yanxia from what I know, and the blue kojin are only allowed due to trade correct? for ARR zones like ul'dah it seems sort of weird.
    Limsa Lominsa is the only city-state in Eorzea that is open to beastmen.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NightFire19 View Post
    Limsa Lominsa is the only city-state in Eorzea that is open to beastmen.
    Yeah, it's quite obvious they're willing to change or alter the lore when necessary, for some reason Viera seems like a touchy subject for them however. I heard the theory that it was corporate's idea to save a male viera reveal for a possible new game in the ivalice series, and that the dev team showing the male viera concept art and using the lore excuse was a way to get people to post feedback that would entice them being given the 'okay' to make the opposing gender? seems too tin foil to me but who knows.
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    Mael Bess
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    Odin
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    Quote Originally Posted by MrKimper View Post
    I mean, that's not even counting the fact that hrothgar in lore would count as a beast tribe based on description alone. I believe it's been stated multiple times that the only reason miqo'te weren't more heavily persecuted was because they looked far more humanoid and stayed to themselves.

    Sidurgu's family was slaughtered on sight in ishgard so i can't imagine how weird it is in lore to have literal beastmen walking around in city states. Even in the lupin are restricted to yanxia from what I know, and the blue kojin are only allowed due to trade correct? for ARR zones like ul'dah it seems sort of weird.
    It's obvious they just throw the lore card when it suits them, it's just a really bad excuse.
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    Arylett Charnoa
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    Maduin
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    White Mage Lv 90
    Genderlocks are not logical by any stretch of the imagination. Neither lore-wise nor in terms of pleasing your consumer base. More options are always appreciated, even if they may not be ones that I will probably ever consider. (Though my husband would, he was interested in being one) Male Viera would be a huge boon for the FF series as a whole. Seeing them would be exciting, and draw more attention to the game.

    Please add them whenever it is possible.
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    Last edited by Arylett; 03-26-2019 at 03:29 AM.

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    Livia Crane
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    Balmung
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    Marauder Lv 90
    I don't usually give feedback, but yeah this is one of those issues I feel was a fairly substantial misstep. Please consider removing the gender lock.
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    Mistral Leclerc
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    Balmung
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    Red Mage Lv 70
    I support the idea of having the two extra options, and think the most logical method of implementation would be to add them at a later date during the expansion in the same way Blizzard had to delay Zandalari/Kul tiran.
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