Male Viera as a playable character! show your support

[Zanarkand-Ronso]

How much money is fortnite making on skins?

I had no idea Fornite was an MMO RPG.
I guess Thancred was Base Jumping out of a flying Bus onto the Eorzea Map picking up all the things he could and get the biggest killstreak to win the Battle Royal.

Guess his looks over the years were just new skins that SE sold on the MOG store that he bought with his Gill and Season Tier EXP. The Gunblade is just an aesthetic to his original Knife

[SturmChurro]

I had no idea Fornite was an MMO RPG.
I guess Thancred was Base Jumping out of a flying Bus onto the Eorzea Map picking up all the things he could and get the biggest killstreak to win the Battle Royal.

Guess his looks over the years were just new skins that SE sold on the MOG store that he bought with his Gill and Season Tier EXP. The Gunblade is just an aesthetic to his original Knife

Okay then take WoW as an example. Do you think they are focusing on what you deem "quality", or do you think they are focusing on "aesthetics"? What about Black Desert? ESO?

I think investors are happy industry wide, including mmorpgs, to focus on what you deem "just aesthetics".

Believe it or not, "just aesthetics" are a major selling point for an mmorpg. Graphical quality can be included in this as well. Playable races specifically, are being heavily advertised, again, industry wide. Across MMORPGS. I'd like to know what you deem "quality"? We have the same patch cycle even with Viera/hrothgar, what could they have focused on and improved? This is another argument that viera/hrothgar have somehow taken something from players, rather than an addition for players.

The truth is, they took nothing from players, and didn't focus on these new races at the expense of the quality of the game, rather they focused on the quality of the game over the new races. That is why they are so limited.

[Zanarkand-Ronso]

Okay then take WoW as an example. Do you think they are focusing on what you deem "quality", or do you think they are focusing on "aesthetics"? What about Black Desert? ESO?

I think investors are happy industry wide, including mmorpgs, to focus on what you deem "just aesthetics".

Believe it or not, "just aesthetics" are a major selling point for an mmorpg. Graphical quality can be included in this as well. Playable races specifically, are being heavily advertised, again, industry wide. Across MMORPGS. I'd like to know what you deem "quality"? We have the same patch cycle even with Viera/hrothgar, what could they have focused on and improved? This is another argument that viera/hrothgar have somehow taken something from players, rather than an addition for players.

I don't play those games so I can't answer that question. All I know is WoW is currently hurting because of bad choices that effect the actual game, things that make FFXIV players defensive whenever someone from WoW pitches an idea from their game that could/should be in FFXIV. ESO is loved but could be doing better, and I hear nothing about Black Desert except OOO pretty.

Neat, my argument is that Aesthetics shouldn't be the core focus. The game should be.
If the game suffers, aesthetics won't mean anything. There is nothing wrong with making cool and silly things on the side, but prioritizing them hurts a game more then helps it.

[SturmChurro]

I don't play those games so I can't answer that question. All I know is WoW is currently hurting because of bad choices that effect the actual game, things that make FFXIV players defensive whenever someone from WoW pitches an idea from their game that could/should be in FFXIV. ESO is loved but could be doing better, and I hear nothing about Black Desert except OOO pretty.

Neat, my argument is that Aesthetics shouldn't be the core focus. The game should be.
If the game suffers, aesthetics won't mean anything. There is nothing wrong with making cool and silly things on the side, but prioritizing them hurts a game more then helps it.

This is a disconnect. You claimed a smart investor would invest in quality. They would not, they will invest in what makes them money. "Just aesthetics" makes them money. I will now quote my edit right before your post.

The truth is, they took nothing from players, and didn't focus on these new races at the expense of the quality of the game, rather they focused on the quality of the game over the new races. That is why they are so limited.

I consider "just aesthetics" a part of the games overall quality.

[Zanarkand-Ronso]

This is a disconnect. You claimed a smart investor would invest in quality. They would not, they will invest in what makes them money. "Just aesthetics" makes them money. I will now quote my edit right before your post.



I consider "just aesthetics" a part of the games overall quality.

Sounds like we consider a Games Quality as 2 different things.

[SturmChurro]

Sounds like we consider a Games Quality as 2 different things.

Nope, I think we think game quality is the same thing. It seems to me you just think it's one part of that thing exclusively.

[Zanarkand-Ronso]

Nope, I think we think game quality is the same thing. It seems to me you just think it's one part of that thing exclusively.

I consider "just aesthetics" a part of the games overall quality.

I don't think this, so we don't think Game Quality is the same thing.
I value a fun game with Fun content over Aesthetics that make a company money.