Male Viera as a playable character! show your support

[SturmChurro]

I think it's fine for people to refuse to subscribe to the game for any reason they so please. I do, however, lose any sympathy when they have public meltdowns - which was unfortunately very common earlier on in the thread.

I'd like to see the missing genders added to the game but if it doesn't happen I won't lose any sleep over it. It's just not a huge deal for me and I'm not invested on a personal level. Even if the game crashes and burns in the immediate future - which I find unlikely - there's a lot to look forward to in the future such as Cyberpunk 2077 and FF7R. Not to mention other hobbies to indulge in.

That's another problem too, the "public meltdown". I'm taking a lot of the comments as threats, "give me or I unsub", and a lot of people who have grown tired of some male viera supporters I think are thinking the same thing. People should continue to be requesting what they want in a respectful manner, and more people would hear them out, along with SE.

I don't agree, I don't want this game to crash and burn, nor would there be a replacement in the near future for this game if it did. It fills a niche that only it can do.

[Senn]

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Very well said.

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I haven't seen a lot of "give me or I unsub" comments recently, though.

[SturmChurro]

Very well said.


I haven't seen a lot of "give me or I unsub" comments recently, though.

They may not be recently in this specific thread, but male viera apparently gets spammed all over twitch, and has been said in the past here along with the "homophobia" comments . People have long memories and when they think of a male viera supporter they default to comments like these. Judging by the amount of posts made this morning, and some of the context of the posts I read, it seems to still be at a strong level and people are attacking each other on both sides, which is ultimately unhealthy for the concept of male viera in the future. There is a reason this thread is so heavily moderated, because talks always seem to devolve into bickering.

[Senn]

They may not be recently in this specific thread, but male viera apparently gets spammed all over twitch, and has been said in the past here along with the "homophobia" comments .

You were talking about unsub comments specifically, and I was just saying I haven't seen any comments like those being made recently on here.

[WhiteArchmage]

They may not be recently in this specific thread, but male viera apparently gets spammed all over twitch

tbf, twitch gets spammed A LOT, Viera is just the hot topic right now. If it weren't that it'd be the usual "butt sliders when"

Also, I am pretty sure I've said this before, but anyone's reasons to unsub are their own, and no one is forced to purchase something they don't care about. When I was in that camp it was more about a series of decisions I did not agree with and have always hated gender locks, so that was the proverbial straw. Then the media tour happened and I fell in love with Dancer so here I am (and Lauront pointed out that, if the new races are a hit and the expansion does well, there's extra incentive to make the missing genders).

It also followed that some of the more vocal posters were getting prodded in a "if you care so much, just unsub" way, and when they announced their intentions to do so, were mocked. People just bite back when they're poked, and end up poking back and it just becomes an endless cycle of nagging and baiting and annoyance.

Also also, to your original question (which I also feel like I've answered previously) if there were NO new race in ShB there would have been some grumbling from all the sides that wanted a new one, but there wouldn't be the TEASING of "they exist...lore-wise... you're just not going to see them!" there is now. So about two weeks of "Awww, this could've been the perfect chance to include Viera/Aegyl/Moogles/Ronso/Burmecians/what-have-you" then died down in 2 weeks.

[Theodric]

tbf, twitch gets spammed A LOT, Viera is just the hot topic right now. If it weren't that it'd be the usual "butt sliders when"

The Twitch spam is pretty awkward and embarrassing to behold. Luckily it has been countered with bans. I think it's fine for people to politely request them, though petulant requests should be laughed off and ignored. You're absolutely right that it'd be something else being spammed though!

As for people choosing to not renew their subscription, I don't think the number is going to be very large. Some of them will inevitably be lured back by the expansion. The game servers are practically bursting with players at the moment. So I don't doubt that some people have quit over it but I'm not convinced the number is of particular note.

It'll inevitably be balanced out by the money made by players who purchase optional items/merchandise on a frequent basis and new players who are tempted to try out the game moving forward.

[SturmChurro]

The Twitch spam is pretty awkward and embarrassing to behold. Luckily it has been countered with bans. I think it's fine for people to politely request them, though petulant requests should be laughed off and ignored. You're absolutely right that it'd be something else being spammed though!

As for people choosing to not renew their subscription, I don't think the number is going to be very large. Some of them will inevitably be lured back by the expansion. The game servers are practically bursting with players at the moment. So I don't doubt that some people have quit over it but I'm not convinced the number is of particular note.

It'll inevitably be balanced out by the money made by players who purchase optional items/merchandise on a frequent basis and new players who are tempted to try out the game moving forward.

Pretty much, if you check over on the black chocobo thread, game time cards and even the shadowbringers pre-order has apparently been "sold out" frequently. On top of that EU has to have 2 new servers, and NA aether and primal are pretty much locked all the time for new character creation, and there are frequent server queues. The game will be fine, more than fine. This expansion is looking to be extremely popular, gender locks or not.

[JohnSpawnVFX]

That's another problem too, the "public meltdown". I'm taking a lot of the comments as threats, "give me or I unsub", and a lot of people who have grown tired of some male viera supporters I think are thinking the same thing. People should continue to be requesting what they want in a respectful manner, and more people would hear them out, along with SE.

I don't agree, I don't want this game to crash and burn, nor would there be a replacement in the near future for this game if it did. It fills a niche that only it can do.

It didn't work with BLU, it wouldn't work with mViera.

I'm talking about threatening to unsub, btw

[Lauront]

It didn't work with BLU, it wouldn't work with mViera.

Okie dokie.

[JohnSpawnVFX]

Okie dokie.

Oh, I meant threatening to unsub, not actually requesting things.