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    Quote Originally Posted by Arngrim_Greyashe View Post
    It really irks me when people say SE is lazy. They're not. This game existing is proof enough of that. In regards to hairstyles, they already confirmed that Hrothgar will be getting racial specific hairstyles and new faces. Viera will be getting some legacy styles and some new racial styles.
    i don't think they're lazy. i think SE is just funneling the money XIV prints into other projects (FF7 remake for example)
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    After seeing what they put out for Viera for the Krile outfit and Hrothgar's face locked to hair situation I think people are more than within their rights to call things as they are. I for one was personally not happy about the announcement for new "racial" hairstyles when I already owned several that can only be bought with real money or millions of gil.
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    Saying what I see is not an agenda. It's common sense. Special does not necessarily mean good and in this case is a far cry from complete.
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    Quote Originally Posted by zeylos View Post
    they said only racia hairstyles for female viera, and for male hrotgar new faces, which keep in mind could just be existing faces with different hairstyles
    False, they did in fact say new racial hairstyles and faces for Hrothgar. I've linked the interview several times where they've said this.

    Edit: Here's the link.

    https://docs.google.com/document/d/1...jM/mobilebasic
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    Last edited by Arngrim_Greyashe; 09-01-2019 at 08:57 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arngrim_Greyashe View Post
    False, they did in fact say new racial hairstyles and faces for Hrothgar. I've linked the interview several times where they've said this.

    Edit: Here's the link.

    https://docs.google.com/document/d/1...jM/mobilebasic
    Thats the exact same thing I said, new faces for male hrotgar and racial onyl hairstyles for female viera though
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    While any change to Hrothgar is welcome if it improves how limited they are it's clear after reading over those questions again that they didn't have much of a plan except to give a few beastial options at the cost of everything else. That race deserved to be worked on and released in a state far better than what we got.
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    Last edited by official_coconut; 09-01-2019 at 09:37 AM.

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    I feel like, in general, a lot of cosmetic stuff got shafted in ShB: DNC and GNB don't have any primal weapons, even lvl 60 or 70. They don't have Alexander weapons (but DO have Shire) and the fancy new hairstyle introduced for all races is unavailable for Viera/Hrothgar (although Viera has a...SIMILAR hairdo that I used until last week). This along with the limited hairstyles and the hat problem (which, I mean, idek who thought we wouldn't miss the RDM hat. One of THE iconic pieces of headgear in the entire FF series) makes it feel like ShB brought quite a bit of substance (MSQ, Role Quests, Eden and future content) but dropped a little of the style.
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    Quote Originally Posted by official_coconut View Post
    by @vhyrel on twitter.

    Quote Originally Posted by zeylos View Post
    this is literally the exact definition of how I want male viera to look like. Racial gear + tail included...
    That "racial gear" looks ridiculous, what do you even mean. Like, for real. I added the quote to this post just to highlight the absurdity for others, some context.

    Quote Originally Posted by zeylos View Post
    I think that with classic wow and how SHB is kinda really bad once u finish MSQ FFXIV should really do everythingt hey can next expac if they want a single chance against WoW
    Classic WoW isn't going to hold a large audience for more than 2-3 months, guaranteed; it's a gimmick. Streamers are keeping the sheep occupied for now. I would like to see a massive overhaul to PvP in this game - since I am the core a PvP player, but I never see it happening.

    Quote Originally Posted by zeylos View Post
    seem to really not care that much about the new races
    I agree about them not caring too much about the new races. It's obvious the way they were handled - like a side project rushed at the last minute. Unfortunate.

    Quote Originally Posted by Lauront View Post
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    Yeah, I have said it multiple times before. I am big-brained. High IQ.

    Quote Originally Posted by Skolopendrokot View Post
    they just got an order from the above.
    Obviously, it's a management decision to allocate resources to which projects when. Devs are just doing their job; what they are told. I will give the devs themselves props, we got some headgear for viera/hrothgar, because they worked on their own time. They do deserve praise for that. Have said before I don't think it's the devs themselves being "lazy".

    Quote Originally Posted by Arngrim_Greyashe View Post
    It really irks me when people say SE is lazy. They're not...
    Agreed to an extent. Higher ups just don't care; have different priorities, in my opinion.

    Quote Originally Posted by official_coconut View Post
    While any change to Hrothgar is welcome...That race deserved to be worked on and released in a state far better than what we got.
    Agreed. Still new faces just means more reasons to buy a fantasia, you have to use one to change to these new faces anyway. The viera will be able to switch their hairstyle without having to use a fantasia. Hrothgar still have a huge problem for them.

    Quote Originally Posted by WhiteArchmage View Post
    I feel like, in general, a lot of cosmetic stuff got shafted in ShB....
    They probably had too much work on their plate. Did as much as they could while working on other projects. They gave GNB/DNC weapons enough for when they would start leveling - rather than for cosmetics. They made what they had to for those new classes. As for the hairstyle/gear, I am pretty sure that and much of the ShB gear, or rather I have the feeling, was completed prior to the decision to add some headgear for viera, and the hair was probably something similar - something to work on later; potentially a racial variant.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SturmChurro View Post
    That "racial gear" looks ridiculous, what do you even mean. Like, for real. I added the quote to this post just to highlight the absurdity for others, some context.

    Classic WoW isn't going to hold a large audience for more than 2-3 months, guaranteed; it's a gimmick. Streamers are keeping the sheep occupied for now. I would like to see a massive overhaul to PvP in this game - since I am the core a PvP player, but I never see it happening.

    I agree about them not caring too much about the new races. It's obvious the way they were handled - like a side project rushed at the last minute. Unfortunate.
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    Its not ridicolous. You might not like it, but that dosent mean its objectively bad.

    Wow classic isnt gonna hold up for more than 6 months but then Blizzard will eb very close to releasing their next expansion, which if done fine will get back a majority of the wow refugees (which as long as im aware of) make for a decent amount of ffxiv players, and yes, both of the new 'races' (if they can even be called that at this point) are something that shouldnt even have been released until at least 6.0 instead of releasing whatever we got
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    A departure from the typical wood-dwelling male Viera, these by @noizi on tumblr are in a more civilized setting. I loved the straight long hairstyle that female Vieras have and hopefully the males will get something similar to this one minus the flowers.



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