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    Quote Originally Posted by Duskane View Post
    well actually Hrothgar was the first in development because they felt a beast race was needed
    so it was either Female Hrothgar or Female viera and they chose viera because of the demand
    I'm pretty sure they had picked Viera first due to them being a fan favorite (they had concept art ready since HW), but the playerbase was also wanting for a bestial looking race. So their options were to add just viera and hope everyone would be satisfied with just those, an entire bestial race and hope everyone would be satisfied with them, or to split the difference.

    I'm sincerely hoping they do eventually decide to work add the male and female counterparts of the viera and hrothgar respectively. I think they would both add a lot of flavor.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Komarimono View Post
    Would you have a source of them stating they would consider it?
    https://www.gamespot.com/articles/sq...source=twitter

    There you go.

    Quote Originally Posted by Komarimono View Post
    For people not understanding how it works, makes them happy surely. But it's literally a two hour job at most per race. Simple rigging the mesh to the models one by one, culling model mesh for the heels, and a simply UV map tweak for clarity. Hence why some thought it lazy since the exact same mesh as the females, nothing changed just rigged to the male mesh form. Glad others got what they wanted though.

    Yep, that sure is what they did. And it was absolutely delicious. Granted, I wished they were a little quicker on it as well, but I am beyond pleased with the end result. Glad we didn't get a Chippendale thing like some people wanted when you can easily craft that on your own by taking off your male toon's shirt.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mochamonarch View Post
    https://www.gamespot.com/articles/sq...source=twitter

    There you go.




    Yep, that sure is what they did. And it was absolutely delicious. Granted, I wished they were a little quicker on it as well, but I am beyond pleased with the end result. Glad we didn't get a Chippendale thing like some people wanted when you can easily craft that on your own by taking off your male toon's shirt.
    He said no such thing there though.

    "I asked Yoshida if Square Enix would considering allowing more gender options for Hrothgar and Viera in the future, but it appears the studio wants to consider feedback first before making any announcements. Yoshida also said to GameSpot that, due in part to the high complexity and challenge of creating new races and balancing them, Hrothgar might be the final new race added to Final Fantasy XIV Online."

    And here is the proper translation.

    Question: As a follow up, is the team considering adding the other gender for these two races in future expansions?

    Answer: Short answer is we haven’t made a decision on that. The reason why we can’t say for sure. We need to optimize our work flow with the existing races and the new ones. After that, perhaps we do the other gender. But we don’t know right now.

    We did consider Male Viera instead of adding an extra race, but we tried to take player feedback on adding a more beast like race as well as the strong desire to receive Viera. We did expect strong feedback on the gender lock. It was a tough decision, but we decided to do our best to meet both the player feedback and our development team’s vision. It will be very costly to add a new race or genders. So I won’t say no, but I would not like to set expectations high.

    We haven’t had time to look at all of the feedback since this is our first day back at the office after the Tokyo Fan Festival. What was the general feedback from NA based on your experience? Were they upset about no Male Viera, no Female Hrothgar or both?

    Question: It has been a heated topic. Some players are okay, while many players are upset about the gender locking. Many are disappointed about no Male Viera, but with the Female Hrothgar I’ve seen some people be even more upset. This is because in The First Shard they are called Ronso, and in FFX there are plenty of female Ronso.

    Answer: Thank you for the insight. Currently, we are putting together all the feedback. Depending on the feedback we are considering an official statement on the forums.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Komarimono View Post
    Would you have a source of them stating they would consider it? I've yet to find anything in my searches, other then Yoshi stating they were considering male Viera, but instead wanted to implement a beast race in the form of Hrothgar from player feedback during testing and discussion.
    Here.

    As you play through Shadowbringers, you’ll learn that both male Viera and female Hrothgar exist. While you won’t meet any in person, if we developers can find a way to address the various problems which are preventing us from implementing them, then perhaps someday you’ll be able to see them for yourself. I want to be clear that this does not mean it will eventually happen, and that I cannot make any promises at this time. I hope you will understand and bear with us.
    The "problems" referenced are covered in section 1 of that, and are cost-driven, as per earlier interviews. My interpretation of it is that they're waiting to see if the cost is worth it but they won't know that until they see 1) how ShB performs and 2) how the new races perform.
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    I'm guessing he is referring to this comment as "spreading lies". I saw it this morning in another thread.

    Quote Originally Posted by zeylos View Post
    Female viera are the thirs most played race, so they arent like u say. If it wasnt genderlocked wed be talkign differently. Guess on 6.0 with male viera the viera race will likely become one of the most popualr ones all arround
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    Oh wow I've been gone for a week and come back to see particular users being as toxic as they usually were before I left. Shocked.

    On another hope, if we ever get male buns I hope they have a nice furry patch of chest hair.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LittleChickenNugget View Post
    On another hope, if we ever get male buns I hope they have a nice furry patch of chest hair.
    Agreed! I think it'd make for a wonderful customisation option!
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    Most of the arguments in this thread



    Still hoping to see male Viera and Hrothgals someday no matter what appearance Square chooses for them. I also hope they can unlock more hairstyles for what we already have, as well. There's so many cute unlockable hairstyles I'd love to see on the new races.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CoolDad View Post
    I also hope they can unlock more hairstyles for what we already have, as well. There's so many cute unlockable hairstyles I'd love to see on the new races.
    I do too. I feel like it's a shame as there's a lot of very nice hairstyles that would look nice on Viera, but something tells me SE is working on that pretty diligently. We'll probably see more viera hairstyles later down the line.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lauront View Post
    Here.



    The "problems" referenced are covered in section 1 of that, and are cost-driven, as per earlier interviews. My interpretation of it is that they're waiting to see if the cost is worth it but they won't know that until they see 1) how ShB performs and 2) how the new races perform.
    Which is, yet again, never said they are being considered. I'm not even sure how any of those words posted there could even be interpreted as such. If anything, what is being said, is a big, huge, large No, due to the costs and time required implied in such a thing.


    Quote Originally Posted by grinkdaboy View Post
    if not for the feedback regarding the lack of male miqote and female roegadyn we might have never gotten them. never give up and never surrender. there's also quite a few other features that were added thanks to pushback on here
    Adding the other genders was a balancing act done for ARR for the relaunch of the game. As in, they had to fully reboot the game lol


    I am just seeing the same voices crying out, repeatedly. Thinking the more they post that larger the thread means the higher chance. But if you break down this thread to those arguing, begging, crying and driven for the change to be added, becomes rather uh... slim...
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