Male Viera as a playable character! show your support

[Lauront]

Why? From I understand there has never even been a male viera seen ever. Viera is already established (female specifically), like a long time established from what I can tell - so is Hrothgar. What about the Bara community? There are tons of people who want male Hrothgar.

And a good chunk of those already play roes and will go for the improved look. Are you expecting a dramatic divergence from the roe figures? Also bear in mind the proportion of WoW players who play a race of that kind of build and look is c15% at best. Their large build will offset any ‘beast race’ plus points for at least some people, hence why I consider their addition to be quite the risk.

What about female Ronso? They exist too.

SE know which are their most popular male picks - they also know what the problems with the elezen model are (and yet, there’s still more male elezen than rows.) So if male Viera did not prove popular they’d have only themselves to blame. If they had the fluidity and cool animation styles miqo’te have, they’d no doubt be very popular.

Ultimately we’ll have to wait and see how the played race statistics change, maybe into 5.1.

Unfortunately they’re only being given the opportunity to add the races now as far as we can tell, and that is on the shoulders of their senior management, but I remain hopeful they will add the missing genders if ShB gives early indications of doing well. Same hope for the graphics updates. That would leave the game well poised for a strong 6.0.

[DatPotato]

People talking about ff14 revenue as if it was solely used for ff14 alone...

[zeylos]

(like how Yoshi had to stop the animators working on the Dancer animations because he felt the movements were becoming too gendered/ sexual and at some point they would have to make different animations for the both genders. Animators need guidance and over sight to).

There is literally NO reason as to why both male and female couldn't have the same animations even if they are alluring. That is like stating that only 1 gender can be sexy and alluring, and that's is a VERY unnecessary comment

[Lauront]

People talking about ff14 revenue as if it was solely used for ff14 alone...

Such as...? Haven’t seen anyone make that claim.

But there will come a point where if they don’t reinvest in the game, it’ll fail to maintain current sub levels. Its dated looks alone will see to that. Meanwhile if they’re siphoning money off to failed or delayed projects, don’t expect much sympathy.

[zeylos]

Forgive me if I'm wrong, but everything you mentioned that is the most time consuming is literally 'quality control'' and/or 'quality assurance' - and I specifically said, 'Not including quality control.' I should have slapped in QA in there as well to be more clear in my previous post. This is also what Yoshida said the issue was, quality assurances. This isn't to look down at the devs hard work on the models and rigging - but it's a hell of a lot easier to create a model, do the rigging and animations when you don't have to keep going back and forth with the producer and countless of meetings to make sure it's up to his standards. That's the issue, he's admitted to that. It's not cash, it's resources and the fact Yoshida can't be everywhere at once for constant overseeing. He's a hard nut to please. It's why I'm thankful he's finally settled on basic skeleton 'appearance' for male Viera for the concept artists to work from.

Yes, it took them an entire expansion to create a race - yeah, if you're working on it sparingly while doing everything else then yes it's going to take two years. But we need to step away from the imagery that the devs were working feverishly on the race constantly for two years. It's more like this, in the last two years they've been working on patches for Storm Blood which included, savage, trials, dungeons, 24man and etc. While also working on Shadow Bringers which happened to include the race, as well as lore, the world, the story, voice acting, new armours, new designs, new enemies, new environs, music, etc etc etc

Either way, kind of beating a dead horse with a stick. Our little forum dispute means crap all. I ain't in any rush for them to push this out either way.

I think it's best not to push them to do it quickly like you said and wait patiently. I think that if they rush it is would be most likely so bad id rather had waited until 6.0 to get them, so no rush

[zeylos]

People talking about ff14 revenue as if it was solely used for ff14 alone...

Ppl isn't really talking about it like that. In fact, I agree with you on the fact that most of he money this game makes is used to create kh3 ff7 remake and perhaps a new ff mmo or a new ff16

[zeylos]

Also, I just wondered how are hey gona do the gender icon for the missing genders. I think it might be something that tells a lot about the issue

[Fredco191]

Also, I just wondered how they're gonna do the gender icon for the missing genders. I think it might be something that tells a lot about the issue

"the gender icon"?
Oh! Do you mean on the character creation screen? I assume it'll go like:

Hyur ♂ ♀
Elezen ♂ ♀
Lalafell ♂ ♀
Miqo'te ♂ ♀
Roegadyn ♂ ♀
Au Ra ♂ ♀
Hrothgar ♂
Viera ♀

I guess you could put the Hrothgar and Viera in opposite order but I'm just going with how they are on the Shadowbringers site.

[zeylos]

"the gender icon"?
Oh! Do you mean on the character creation screen? I assume it'll go like:

Hyur ♂ ♀
Elezen ♂ ♀
Lalafell ♂ ♀
Miqo'te ♂ ♀
Roegadyn ♂ ♀
Au Ra ♂ ♀
Hrothgar ♂
Viera ♀

I guess you could put the Hrothgar and Viera in opposite order but I'm just going with how they are on the Shadowbringers site.

I think that MAYBE they could like blurr out the male viera and female hrotgar gender icons and maybe make it so when you scroll it says something like 'coming soon' or maybe even 'not playable currently'. I know it's unlikely, but I think it could be a great way for SE to announce the new genders and make sure EVERYONE knows they are coming. I think we will most likely have the missing genders either blured out or they would be like the other races but the missing gender icon will just not be there