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  1. #14641
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    Quote Originally Posted by Amnmaat View Post
    In the FFXIV male spectrum male Midlander are very short; people bring up real life when it's convenient, but the moment real life brings up something like race, gender orientation, or something they don't like all of a sudden "fantasy fantasy!!!"
    Even more of a reason not to make them as tall as the tallest races, since we have already too many of them and as said Midlanders werent supposed to be short. "everything is like this, so we need more like it, I want new races to be exactly like the majority of the ones I can already play!"
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    Quote Originally Posted by Amnmaat View Post
    In the FFXIV male spectrum male Midlander are very short; people bring up real life when it's convenient, but the moment real life brings up something like race, gender orientation, or something they don't like all of a sudden "fantasy fantasy!!!"
    So what you are saying is we already have plenty of tall races and should even out the shorter ones? I agree we need another lala size race.
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  3. #14643
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    Not like people would often say "nobody plays" Hroths, Roes, and Elezen, so really the only "relevant" tall race is Au Ra

    /popcorn
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    Quote Originally Posted by Allegor View Post
    Can't increase healing requirements because "it'd stress the newbies"
    Can't increase dps options either because "it'd stress the newbies"
    so apparently the only option that doesn't "stress the newbies" is either pressing 1211111111, or do nothing at all.

  4. #14644
    Player Amnmaat's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tlamila View Post
    Even more of a reason not to make them as tall as the tallest races, since we have already too many of them and as said Midlanders werent supposed to be short. "everything is like this, so we need more like it, I want new races to be exactly like the majority of the ones I can already play!"
    No one asked to make them as tall as the tallest races.
    No, we don't have too many tall races, it evens out to 3 and 3 or 4 and 3. Just because male Midlander isn't tall doesn't mean that there are no short males, it just means that male Midlander isn't the average height.
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  5. #14645
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    Quote Originally Posted by Renik View Post
    Basically that, I'm struggling to not pop a fantasia and go back to aura
    People will be popping fantasias like no tomorrow, after about two weeks of their release, and the novelty wears off.

    Quote Originally Posted by Truen View Post
    Looks kind of dumb though.
    No joke.

    Quote Originally Posted by Amnmaat View Post
    In the FFXIV male spectrum male Midlander are very short; people bring up real life when it's convenient, but the moment real life brings up something like race, gender orientation, or something they don't like all of a sudden "fantasy fantasy!!!"
    It's too bad male midlander couldn't max out at around 6'2 at least. I do think they are a bit too short, always have.
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  6. #14646
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    Quote Originally Posted by SturmChurro View Post
    People will be popping fantasias like no tomorrow, after about two weeks of their release, and the novelty wears off.

    No joke.

    It's too bad male midlander couldn't max out at around 6'2 at least. I do think they are a bit too short, always have.
    Give me like a month lol, I don't got the money to be popping fantasias like fez dispenser.

    As pretty as Viera are, I'll always return to the gremlin life.
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  7. #14647
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    Quote Originally Posted by SturmChurro View Post
    People will be popping fantasias like no tomorrow, after about two weeks of their release, and the novelty wears off.
    Probably true for a lot of people, m. viera are going to boom in the first months then things will even out, I think I'll stay viera tho, the only times I switched is when we got news related to male viera, mostly because I'm a FFTA fanboy and that's the race I want to play, and not having it makes the other races feel insufficient.

    ps: You switched again, fight it! Just kidding, but I hope we get some news on f. viera and m. hrothgar in the next LL for the megathread ppl.
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  8. #14648
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    Quote Originally Posted by SturmChurro View Post
    People will be popping fantasias like no tomorrow, after about two weeks of their release, and the novelty wears off.
    I wouldn't be surprised. Especially if the hairstyle and headgear situation does not change.
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  9. #14649
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    Quote Originally Posted by Juzjuzz View Post
    Take the height advantage off Elezen and you loose a good reason to choose them.
    Height and design go hand-in-hand. Elezen have those strange proportions because they're a taller, stretched version of humans. Head size seems to stay constant across races, other than the size range due to character height scaling the whole model up and down.

    Personally I picked my Elezen alt because I liked his face. The body proportions are a bit odd but not unbearably strange.
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  10. #14650
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    Quote Originally Posted by BaconBits View Post
    Give me like a month lol, I don't got the money to be popping fantasias like fez dispenser.

    As pretty as Viera are, I'll always return to the gremlin life.
    I have to buy another one, because I got the voice wrong when I remade my au ra preset. This one makes too much noise in combat.

    It's inevitable that people will switch off of viera/hrothgar, not only because they have an established character already for years, but because viera get left out (and will be) of many event rewards, hairstyles, hats, etc.

    Quote Originally Posted by Renik View Post
    Probably true for a lot of people, m. viera are going to boom in the first months then things will even out, I think I'll stay viera tho, the only times I switched is when we got news related to male viera, mostly because I'm a FFTA fanboy and that's the race I want to play, and not having it makes the other races feel insufficient.

    ps: You switched again, fight it! Just kidding, but I hope we get some news on f. viera and m. hrothgar in the next LL for the megathread ppl.
    I'm sure there will be holdouts, don't get me wrong. It may not be so bad for male character players and male viera, as the received hairstyles for the past.. while.. haven't really been that appealing for them, I'd say. I do wonder how long it'll take until players are complaining about limitations and male viera en masse here on the forums though. In addition to that, I wonder how many players will switch off their male viera if SE ever adds that "hyur stubble".

    I'm an outlier. I've switched in the past, because I'm simply a fantasia addict, but this au ra (slightly altered) is the same au ra I've played as for the majority of my active time in FFXIV, and I have done most of the story on her as well. She is technically my main (canon) character, not viera. Anyway, I'm sure SE will love the people who are not 100% satisfied with male viera, and start switching back and forth frequently from their character preset prior, to their male viera. That's a lot of fantasia sales!

    Quote Originally Posted by Theodric View Post
    I wouldn't be surprised. Especially if the hairstyle and headgear situation does not change.
    Hairstyle situation might change, we might actually start getting hairstyles, but I'm not sure if the rate viera start receiving them will please players, nor do I suspect they will change their stance on the "viera unique" styles. Then there's the issue of potential unisex viera styles, or people simply not liking the new styles brought for male viera. Hat situation, I don't expect to change much, maybe they will start adding more circlets, and minor headgear though. Now, late into ShB, they seem to have been adding more stuff that viera/hrothgar could wear.
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    Last edited by SturmChurro; 06-16-2021 at 11:54 AM.

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