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  1. #81
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    This might have been one of there biggest mistakes sense 1.0. We have to many dps and the dps ques will just keep getting longer. We are getting pretty much 2 tanks 1 dps and no healers. Being a tank main for Shadowbring and my friend going be a healer. I plan to run two Trust System members to replace the pug dps. Sure alot of people are going be doing the same thing.

    Maybe if there is enough backlash about this. Dancer might get a total rework into a healer in 6.0.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DemonicNeko View Post
    This might have been one of there biggest mistakes sense 1.0. We have to many dps and the dps ques will just keep getting longer. We are getting pretty much 2 tanks 1 dps and no healers. Being a tank main for Shadowbring and my friend going be a healer. I plan to run two Trust System members to replace the pug dps. Sure alot of people are going be doing the same thing.

    Maybe if there is enough backlash about this. Dancer might get a total rework into a healer in 6.0.
    I suspect that SE has given up on trying to spread the population evenly out for roles - the introduction of trusts I imagine will help keep the dps queue down. As for DNC getting a rework - very unlikely. The best we had to hope for is that we actually get new healer in 6.0 (probably GEO I guess) but frankly I think it's more likely that we'll get two new dps.
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  3. #83
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    I'shtola Maqa
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    For the slight and i mean really slight chance that Gaia would be healer, why would they hold back to announce knowing full well now that they have pissed people off?
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  4. #84
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    Quote Originally Posted by Maero View Post
    For the slight and i mean really slight chance that Gaia would be healer, why would they hold back to announce knowing full well now that they have pissed people off?
    Personally, my question is how many times and in how many ways does SE need to confirm there's no new healer before people accept it? (As in, accept the fact of it - yes, please do keep telling SE we're not happy with the decision).
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    Thea Sitori
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    Quote Originally Posted by Risvertasashi View Post
    Personally, my question is how many times and in how many ways does SE need to confirm there's no new healer before people accept it? (As in, accept the fact of it - yes, please do keep telling SE we're not happy with the decision).
    I think it only sank in, or is starting to sink in now that YoshiP addressed it in the press conference.
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    Derio Uzumaki
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    DPS queues wont be bad. We have squadrons, we will have 3 deep dungeons, and also trusts for all the SHB dungeons.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Derio View Post
    DPS queues wont be bad. We have squadrons, we will have 3 deep dungeons, and also trusts for all the SHB dungeons.
    Yes... exactly this... the Trust system.

    Please look forward to it.
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  8. #88
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    Tykel Medaen
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    Dancer has never, ever been a healer in any FF game ever. Ever.

    You were fools to expect this would be any different in FF14, a game which thus far has stuck to the general theme of every single FF class thus far. Now, i do agree that it sucks not getting a new healer, but - and maybe it's because i'm new to the game - people are being overly dramatic about it. And think about this seriously: Do you really want Square to force out a new Healer that does the exact same things as all the other healers? There are only so many ways to heal, and the three existing Healer classes pretty much cover them. What do you expect? What ideas does anyone bemoaning the lack of a new healer have to make a healer that is A: Actually a Final Fantasy class, B: Different enough from te existing healers and C: Actually fun to play?

    Like....even if they released Geomancer as a new healer class today (just an example, because if GEO comes it also will not be a healer) what would you expect it to do that is in any way different from WHM, AST and SCH? I have one idea, that being a healer built around dropping healing and buffing zones, or one that can spread damage out between party members. But that's all i can personally come up with.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SaveVersusDeath View Post
    Dancer has never, ever been a healer in any FF game ever. Ever.
    Dancer and /DNC was not a terrible sub for some self/solo healing and that in FFXI.

    As for methods of healing, here are a few that I came up with off the top of my head from various MMOs I've played. AOE type effects (and likewise GTAoE) not included as any of these methods can be made into an AoE/GTAoE.

    - Direct Heals (self explanatory)
    - Heals over Time (HoTs)
    - Shielding Heals (Adlo)
    - Healing Damage Shields (Mark of Karn (EQ), Radiant Spores (RIFT)- Chloromancer)
    - Damage Converted to Healing (RIFT Chloromancer, Lifeleeching (Self Healing) to some degree)
    - Transfer health to other (Blood Mage- Vanguard and others)
    - Transfer Some/All Damage to Self
    - Detonating Heals
    - Time-Delay Heals
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    Last edited by Reiryuu; 03-26-2019 at 08:49 PM.

  10. #90
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    I'shtola Maqa
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    Having had Dancer as a healer was their opportunity to do something completely different but i guess they do not share that vision.
    People are not being over dramatic, 6 years to wait for a new healer is a long time and every expansion they add dps which we already had enough of until 6.0

    The "reworks" will have to be damn good and balanced because many healer mains will for sure unsub.
    Because from what i have read about what others said about the Mr.Happy interview it would sound like no new healers even for 6.0, i could be wrong
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