DANCER IS A DPS?

[ForgottenScholar]

Hi guys keep the faith, healer is on the way I can feel it. Spent too long references a hammer and a character Gaia Just for that to be a bloody glamour. I think it’s on the way but it isn’t ready yet and needs more time to finish. When Hw launches it had a tank, ranged dps and healer. Now even thought hey said they wouldn’t do that again the market has changed and paid subscription mmo’s are not in the same place. Wait till live letter later and see if he mentions that hammer again, the hammer that’s viera wielding green mages used in final fantasy tactics 2!. What sort of healer could use a hammer that might be similar to another mmo that isn’t doing so well? Maybe a melee focused geo or similar?

[tinythinker]

I mean you might as well give up any hopes of a healer being in ShB now.

Hi guys keep the faith, healer is on the way I can feel it.

Hmmmmm... I see your point

[Metsonm]

My hope is that WHM or AST get a full ground up rework like Bard did to differentiate them a little, which would at least justify the exclusion of a new healer class.

But my expectation is that we're just going to get nothing because it feels like Squenix consistently give healers the shaft and fixing it is an afterthought.

I had already been playing RDM more than healing these last couple of patches, guess I'll just swap over to a DPS main full time.

[Greywolfamakir]

Yeah, Dancer is DPS and it looks AMAZING, we know almost nothing gameplay wise, but it looks great.

[Rosa_Frandlia]

Hi guys keep the faith, healer is on the way I can feel it. Spent too long references a hammer and a character Gaia Just for that to be a bloody glamour. I think it’s on the way but it isn’t ready yet and needs more time to finish. When Hw launches it had a tank, ranged dps and healer. Now even thought hey said they wouldn’t do that again the market has changed and paid subscription mmo’s are not in the same place. Wait till live letter later and see if he mentions that hammer again, the hammer that’s viera wielding green mages used in final fantasy tactics 2!. What sort of healer could use a hammer that might be similar to another mmo that isn’t doing so well? Maybe a melee focused geo or similar?

White Mage.... they had them since FF1.

[Tharia]

Yeah, Dancer is DPS and it looks AMAZING, we know almost nothing gameplay wise, but it looks great.

Oh i guess most agree on that one. Optical it looks great so far.

[Deceptus]

Posted on the General Forum Might as well post here as well

Here's why I'm pretty upset:

Healers have arguably the hardest job in the game. They have to fix everyone's mistakes, Heal people, and are expected to put out as much dps as possible. They're just as vital as tanks are.

The tanks get all the incentives in the form of mounts (unicorn withstanding)

It just seems wrong that every expansion can almost guarantee a new DPS and tanks and healers have to fight for the scraps. It is roughly 5 years since we've gotten a new healer, will be 7-9 before we are even considered again (next expansion). That hurts.

We were told in 4.0 we wouldn't get a new healer (and tank) because they had to balance what they had

And they did a terrible job of it. SCH MP rates were ridiculous (at 4.0). WHM Lilies are still to this day a joke. It just really seems like the developers have no idea on what to do with healers.

Healers are hard to balance and we don't know what other playstyles to do!

Take a look at WoW and it's 6 different types of healers. If you're netcode wasn't S#!T and could actually handle channel based heals you might be able to have a different heal style.

Rift has a Chloromancer that heals the group by doing damage.

SWTOR had a medic that shot people to heal them.



Where's the creativity?

Why does SE cater so much to DPS?

If it had been a Healer instead of a tank, the tanks would be reacting the exact same way the healers are now.

[EaMett]

You know what would add insult to injury? If our queue times went up because of the new npc feature.

[Hustensaft]

Take a look at WoW and it's 6 different types of healers. If you're netcode wasn't S#!T and could actually handle channel based heals you might be able to have a different heal style.

Rift has a Chloromancer that heals the group by doing damage.

SWTOR had a medic that shot people to heal them.


Where's the creativity?

There's no need for creativity. FFXIVs heal design is dreadful, and that's because the encounter design is generally poor for healing.

Healers spend anywhere from 10-25% of a fight actually healing. But even that number is if you account for any oGCD ability as a full GCD ability.
The vast majority of outgoing healing is done by the oGCD-mp-free st and aoe heals, and hideous things like Deployment Tactics.

Unless some serious changes happen to encounter design and how damage hits the party, nothing will change about that. And if nothing changes about that, you essentially don't need a 3rd heal that heals with his 2-3 abilities, uses whatever group support he has, and then spams whatever his DPS filler is. The reality is that even if there was any creativity, it'd be wasted until the core healing gameplay changes.

[Yuyuka3]

Am I really the only one who's glad we aren't getting a new healer before the existing ones are properly balanced oO
Healer balance has been a hot mess for quite some time now; let them sort that out first, before you go demand the balance to be even more broken than it already is.