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Thread: Dancer is a DPS

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    Quote Originally Posted by Barraind View Post
    MCH is rare because its in a pretty bad spot.
    MCH's biggest problem is that it plays like shit and no one wants to put up with it.

    Seriously, so few people play and its hardly due to viability, its actually pretty strong at this point, just very few people want to play it because they made it obnoxiously clunky and ping dependant for no reason other than to make the job worse. The heat gauge added nothing but a headache and I really hope the rework removes it.
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    No surprise it has always been a support class and never a main healer. Know it be my new main. Be able to finally main a dancer like I did in ffxi.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Maero View Post
    People need to stop using ranged dps bleh bleh as excuses. Fact of the matter is it was more then due for a tank/healer expansion. Not a dps all the time every expansion.
    That is fair enough, but we only have 2 precedents when it comes to expansions. It's not like we've had 5 or 6 of them with an established pattern of new jobs. It has been different every time so far (including 1.0 to ARR).
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    I like the fact that the Dancers use the weapon from Xena i can't remember the name of it though.

    I like Xena i miss that show.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Barraind View Post
    Dancer has -never- been a dps role.


    In After Years (if we really want to call Dance and Jive commands 'dancer') it was a random white magic spell on you or a random debuff on the enemy.

    In 5 it was a support debuffer.

    In 6 it was a support action set.

    In 10.2 it was a debuffer.

    In 12.RW it was group heals and enemy debuffs.

    In Tactics it was a support debuffer.

    In Tactics.A2 it was a support debuffer.

    In dimensions it was a support debuffer.

    In 11 it was a support class that used fast 1handers to power group heals (waltzes), group buffs (sambas), and debuffs (steps and flourishes).
    In FFXIV, a support debuffer could very well be DPS. Your post certainly shows that healing was not the main focus of dancer.
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    It could have also been a niche for a healer that would have separated it from the only 2 things they seem to know how to do on healers (not that we're going to actually see meaningful debuffs in 14 because of how mechanics work).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Esteed View Post
    I like the fact that the Dancers use the weapon from Xena i can't remember the name of it though.

    I like Xena i miss that show.
    Chakram?

    And yeah Xena was the bee's knees. If Gabrielle was your first TV crush you're part of my generation.
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    i'm happy one more DPS to level up , but sad for healers players ....2 more years to wait guys
    this + genderlock .....i'd say we had better fanfests
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    Quote Originally Posted by Barraind View Post
    It could have also been a niche for a healer that would have separated it from the only 2 things they seem to know how to do on healers (not that we're going to actually see meaningful debuffs in 14 because of how mechanics work).
    Actually, Dancer may not be debuffing at all. The slide says some dances enhance party members, so it's more of a buffer.

    I've always viewed healing as just part of an overall supporting role, but if they want to focus on healing as the role, then it opens up non-healing roles as support that can also heal (like support tank in paladin). The difference is in the focus of the support, whether it's more HP-centered or more varied and goes into other aspects of the fight (which is probably where the pure healer WHM vs more utility SCH/AST issue come into play).

    So, overall, dancer can be either one or the other in this game.
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    I'm sad for healers who wanted a new job to play with, but I personally want a new ranged DPS to be dual-wielding pistols. More meh, and some feh for good measure. I'll just have to be honest and say I don't get this one. The best thing about that reveal video was the music, not the dancing.

    Anyway, I though I did the Sundrop and Moonlift dances well enough that no further dancing was needed. *am disappoint*
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