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    Quote Originally Posted by Sigma-Astra View Post
    I'm in the minority where I didn't see Dancer working as a healer in XIV, it worked in XI because XI actually supported the idea of true support classes. It makes more sense as a DPS in XIV, what would have been nice as a new healer for healer mains is something similar to Chemist or Geomancer, but god knows they'll make the excuse that we already have Alchemist as a crafter and Geomancer is already mentioned and has a part in the AST storyline.
    My favourite is how dancer was historically a damage dealing job and wasn't even a healer in XI except for how subjobs worked and complimented each other.

    "BuT iT wAs a HeAlEr iN xI!"
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    Quote Originally Posted by TaiyoShikasu View Post
    My favourite is how dancer was historically a damage dealing job and wasn't even a healer in XI except for how subjobs worked and complimented each other.

    "BuT iT wAs a HeAlEr iN xI!"
    I played a DNC in XI. Even DNC wanted to sub DNC.
    It was not a healer, but of course was very capable of being a healer and is actually a support class in most Final Fantasy games including XI.

    Support in our 'XIV trinity' could have gone two ways, but people hoped for a new and exciting support healer. Unfortunately, it hasn't worked out that way.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TaiyoShikasu View Post
    My favourite is how dancer was historically a damage dealing job and wasn't even a healer in XI except for how subjobs worked and complimented each other.

    "BuT iT wAs a HeAlEr iN xI!"
    Issues on role choices are caused by individual players and how they chose to use various jobs. Much of it based on single player games which frequently had very little use for tank skills or dedicated healer classes. DNC was never a healer, it was a melee support in previous games which makes the jump to ranged dps a change. However in FFXI people chose to try using it as a healer because the 7000 people playing DPS jobs couldn't find a way to make an exp party work without a healer. They did the same thing to SMN as well for awhile.

    Look at other jobs that were released in FFXIV

    Many people upset that DRK was a Tank because the only things they chose to remember was the skills in previous games that basically made it self destruct to boost its damage temporarily. They forget that when not using self destructive skills it's usually one of the most durable jobs in the games that have it.

    People upset that Gunbreaker was a Tank. Logic on this basically didn't go any further than its a gun with a sword blade so it does damage. Its like they didn't even look at the role of the users of the weapon in FFVIII when making their argument.

    People saying SAM should have been a tank and not a DPS... I'm not in a mood to post a 17 page long wall of text explaining everything wrong with that train of thought.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RitsukoSonoda View Post
    Issues on role choices are caused by individual players and how they chose to use various jobs. Much of it based on single player games which frequently had very little use for tank skills or dedicated healer classes. DNC was never a healer, it was a melee support in previous games which makes the jump to ranged dps a change. However in FFXI people chose to try using it as a healer because the 7000 people playing DPS jobs couldn't find a way to make an exp party work without a healer. They did the same thing to SMN as well for awhile.

    Look at other jobs that were released in FFXIV

    Many people upset that DRK was a Tank because the only things they chose to remember was the skills in previous games that basically made it self destruct to boost its damage temporarily. They forget that when not using self destructive skills it's usually one of the most durable jobs in the games that have it.

    People upset that Gunbreaker was a Tank. Logic on this basically didn't go any further than its a gun with a sword blade so it does damage. Its like they didn't even look at the role of the users of the weapon in FFVIII when making their argument.

    People saying SAM should have been a tank and not a DPS... I'm not in a mood to post a 17 page long wall of text explaining everything wrong with that train of thought.
    Basically it boils down to people wanting XIV to be a sequel to XI despite probably never playing XI and also ignoring iterations of jobs from previous titles because they probably never played those titles either.
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    Last edited by TaiyoShikasu; 03-23-2019 at 02:01 PM.

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    I really hope there's a healer announced at some point in the near future before the expansion launches because it would be a massive disappointment to forego adding a healer to the game when the last Healer class was added years ago.
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    Between no male viera and no healer. I think they've upset a lot of people.
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    I think every major announcement about this expansion is making me less excited.


    "fucking up the datacenters woooo"
    "no new healer, woooo"
    "The nonsense that is bunny and lion, woooooooo"
    "new tank is yet another 'lookatmysword isnt my sword a cool sword' wooooooo"

    Hard to keep faking the "woooo".
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    3 expansions in a row with dps, for sure they will loose many subs should 6.0 even have 1 dps
    The livestream started off so good
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    AAW COME ON! theres only 3 healer classes and you're getting a new tank! Now we learned even square couldn't give a fuck about us healer mains!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Valdima View Post
    AAW COME ON! theres only 3 healer classes and you're getting a new tank! Now we learned even square couldn't give a fuck about us healer mains!
    The 3rd one isn't even really like... anything new. It's just a mashup of SCH/WHM.
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