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Thread: Dancer is a DPS

  1. #221
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    Papaneja Zazaneja
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    Quote Originally Posted by NessaWyvern View Post
    If you separate the roles into their main stat, we'll have 3 str, 4 agility, 4 vit (tanks), 3/4 int, and 3 Mind. So we need another Str (dps), Int. (Dps) and Mind (Healer).

    Making up categories is fun!

    But yeah, introducing a new tank and ranged dps actually unbalanced the classes based on main stat.
    The official categories on FFXIV's job guide website are Tank Healer, and DPS, with the latter being officially split into three sub-categories: the Melee, Physical Ranged and Magical Ranged (Caster) DPS categories.

    As a DPS, your limit break and your role actions are dependent on your sub-role (Caster AoE, Melee single-target, Ranged Line-AoE). A Melee DPS can't AoE limit break or use Caster role actions.

    The DPS sub-category split actually isn't arbitrary or fan-made.
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    Shaelysis Amara
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dualgunner View Post
    In the same vein that you're saying MCH and BRD don't fight for the same role, the tanks don't compete for the same spot either. Just like how Bard is the lock in spot for second DPS (after DRG), you have the WAR tank and the not-WAR tank that PLD/DRK fight over. Same with healers: you have the SCH healer, and the not-SCH healer that the AST and WHM compete for.

    MCH and BRD are meant to compete for the same spot. It's just that MCH is woefully unprepared to compete for that spot.
    We're pretty much coming at the same point from two different angles. I find the dev quote you posted interesting precisely because it suggests something of a blindness to how the players treat MCH, that is not as a support dps but as a pure dps. If the devs truly mean for it to be competing for a spot they will need to change the job significantly in SHB. Either way though a new support dps was needed. And as I said earlier in this thread it would be nice perhaps if they added another healer to fit maybe a pro-active (shields) & reactive (stronger heals/regen) model.

    It will be interesting to see if GNB does shake up the tank model at all.
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  3. #223
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    Luna Luorc'a
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    FF XIV need a new healer. If make dancer a dps... they should not to give us a BLU but a new healer job ( if give only 3 new jobs). I think BLU could wait later. New Healer job was more important :/
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    Haxaan Shivar
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    I was pretty bummed that Dancer wasn't a healer for 2 reasons.

    1. Dancer Melee Healer would have been Awesome and something different to what we currently have.
    2. They haven't offered another healer since HW.

    After thinking more on it though, I am happy that Ranged DPS got another addition and Dancer was implemented. It makes sense why they did what they did. It does suck that we didn't get another healer, however, I love AST and don't think I would have changed mains even if Dancer was a Healer. With all the battle system changes in 5.0 it is going to be interesting to see what they do with every job, especially healers. I'm praying for a bit more diversity and that the 3 healers we have will have more of an individual identity. I'm very excited for 5.0 because there is just so much that they can do and I can't wait to see.
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    Sieya Mizuno
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    I was disappointed by not having a healer added this expansion as well. I feel like at this point if they were feeling ambitious they could fiddle with a few jobs like bard and astrologian maybe with dancer and make them support classes. But that would take a lot of dev work and there would definitely be a real rough patch in the beginning trying to figure out how that would play in the current system, so probably not going to happen.
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    Sir Nashred
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    I liked the job in FFXI and wish it would have been more close to that.
    I didn't really want it to be a healer.
    Maybe it will be cool as a ranged, I will have to wait and see.
    I heard someone say as long as it is not a bard with a Chakram and I agree with that.
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