Dancer is a DPS

[Barraind]

What is Gunbreaker doing? Who is it stepping on, what class does the same thing as Gunbreaker..besides be a tank?

I mean, from what we know so far, its basically dark knight with reload arts.

A general theme of "Oh noooooo" went along with that reveal.

Also, seriously, wheres the giant nero-esque magitek hammer tank?

[Barraind]

so i will throw this question out to everyone

how would u balance the 3 healers to allow dancer to be the 4th healer without upsetting the current healer mains of each job

so name me how you would do it without screwed the jobs up and not making it be choosen based on "ultility" so that u can bring any healer

the current meta is crit focus so ast/sch is meta curently.... whm is only used for progression

whm /sch / ast already have problems as it is now.....

White mages heavily focused on over-time healing. Regen as a long duration, smaller heal, a new short duration (3-4 ticks) regen with significant healing per tick, medica 2 turned into a group regen, and direct heals that add regen effects as riders. Smaller group damage potential, but hands down the best efficiency and throughput.
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Scholars heavily focused on shielding effects. Heals with shield riders, shields that are just shields. Group shields. Eos and selene tweaked around the utility they can provide. Cooldowns to fully shield the next hit. Mitigation focus over restoration.

Astro healing changed to time manipulation. Current heal set removed. Cards added as longer cooldown abilities (not random) that do an on demand effect (mp regen, shield, damage, crit, speed, as current) and a secondary heal effect. Short cooldown to extend card effect. Short cooldown to enhance card effect. Long cooldown to freeze a targets HP from changing for a few seconds.

New healer:. Has several damage skills which cause party healing, either as a group pulse heal (instead of healing for x potency once, it heals for 3 hits of x/3 potency) or as a direct heal. Its traditional heal line heals X potency, but if anyone else in the area is damaged, it bounces to multiple targets, healing .7x, .25x, .15x potency instead (initial target, most damaged, second most damaged in range). Provides more offensive buffs to the party, but has to have damage uptime to heal to the fullest, and lacks impactful mitigation qualities.


Ideal composition is one of the first two + one of the second two, but the toolkits are robust enough where content would be doable by any combination of two.


Theres still design space for a few more healers in there too. I cna give you ~6-8 before they overlap, and thats keeping it limited to what 14 can handle mechanically. If you let me work with what other MMO's can handle, I can give you 12-14.

[Its_Elodie]

I had high hopes for dancer being a healer. They wasted the opportunity to make it something completely new as a healing job and of course took the laziest route possible and made it ANOTHER dps. 10 DPS. 4 Tanks. 3 Healers.

As a healer main I feel a ridiculous amount of spite towards their favoritism with DPS roles in this game. Asking those of us who main a healer to wait a possible 6 years because they are too lazy/refuse to get their heads out of the sand as far as healer balance and concepts go isn’t a reasonable excuse in my opinion.

The worst part in all of this is I’m sure the cries for balancing will still go unheard in the expansion and things will probably pretty much stay the same, and I don’t know which is more disappointing: the fact that they are oblivious or lazy, or that they just don’t care.

[Zanarkand-Ronso]

I had high hopes for dancer being a healer. They wasted the opportunity to make it something completely new as a healing job and of course took the laziest route possible and made it ANOTHER dps. 10 DPS. 4 Tanks. 3 Healers.

As a healer main I feel a ridiculous amount of spite towards their favoritism with DPS roles in this game. Asking those of us who main a healer to wait a possible 6 years because they are too lazy/refuse to get their heads out of the sand as far as healer balance and concepts go isn’t a reasonable excuse in my opinion.

The worst part in all of this is I’m sure the cries for balancing will still go unheard in the expansion and things will probably pretty much stay the same, and I don’t know which is more disappointing: the fact that they are oblivious or lazy, or that they just don’t care.

I share the disappointment, I really do, but I think this comment is to spiteful.
Plus I mean, I said it in another thread, (I think, everythings kinda melding together right now @_@) as much as I would have loved a healer, I dont think they could have turned dancer into a truly unique healer. Its performances would probably be amazing, but I think it would just be another Ast. And if it does ast's job better, then you're effectively rendering 1 job useless.
So as upset as I am to, I think it was a good choice, because it just would not work as a healer. Plus now there is a 3rd ranged DPS, I will give it that much

[AkumaHomura]

I share the disappointment, I really do, but I think this comment is to spiteful.
Plus I mean, I said it in another thread, (I think, everythings kinda melding together right now @_@) as much as I would have loved a healer, I dont think they could have turned dancer into a truly unique healer. Its performances would probably be amazing, but I think it would just be another Ast. And if it does ast's job better, then you're effectively rendering 1 job useless.
So as upset as I am to, I think it was a good choice, because it just would not work as a healer. Plus now there is a 3rd ranged DPS, I will give it that much

There are now 6 ranged dps

[Syrehn]

I had high hopes for dancer being a healer. They wasted the opportunity to make it something completely new as a healing job and of course took the laziest route possible and made it ANOTHER dps. 10 DPS. 4 Tanks. 3 Healers.

As a healer main I feel a ridiculous amount of spite towards their favoritism with DPS roles in this game. Asking those of us who main a healer to wait a possible 6 years because they are too lazy/refuse to get their heads out of the sand as far as healer balance and concepts go isn’t a reasonable excuse in my opinion.

The worst part in all of this is I’m sure the cries for balancing will still go unheard in the expansion and things will probably pretty much stay the same, and I don’t know which is more disappointing: the fact that they are oblivious or lazy, or that they just don’t care.

I wish I could thumbs you up more. Pretty much sums up how I feel right now too. The salt is real.

[MrKimper]

Thank god, I can finally play a chakram class.

[Zanarkand-Ronso]

Thank god, I can finally play a chakram class.

They do look pretty badass right?
Can't wait to see the Designs and the Primal/Endgame Gear

[Mesarthim]

Like some have said I'm not mad dancer is a dps (I'm happy it's in at all really) I'm mad no healer was revealed. But I think what infuriated me the most is knowing I have an FC member who spat in the faces of healer mains like myself, effectively saying we should just play the new tank then. What this person fails to know is I have every job at 70 and I tank considerably on the side, sometimes more than healing.

The icing on the cake? He doesn't even have healers unlocked besides a 30 AST. Legit spits in the face of healers when he himself doesn't heal AND is getting a new toy for his primary role.

[Barraind]

We only have 1 melee dex-based class though.

Clearly we need 2 more light melee before we add any more healers, despite the fact that every dps is interchangeable with every other dps in how matchmaking works.