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    Quote Originally Posted by Deceptus View Post
    Here's why I'm pretty upset:

    Healers have arguably the hardest job in the game. They have to fix everyone's mistakes, Heal people, and are expected to put out as much dps as possible. They're just as vital as tanks are.

    The tanks get all the incentives in the form of mounts (unicorn withstanding)

    It just seems wrong that every expansion can almost guarantee a new DPS and tanks and healers have to fight for the scraps. It is roughly 5 years since we've gotten a new healer, will be 7-9 before we are even considered again (next expansion). That hurts.

    We were told in 4.0 we wouldn't get a new healer (and tank) because they had to balance what they had

    And they did a terrible job of it. SCH MP rates were ridiculous (at 4.0). WHM Lilies are still to this day a joke. It just really seems like the developers have no idea on what to do with healers.



    Take a look at WoW and it's 6 different types of healers. If you're netcode wasn't S#!T and could actually handle channel based heals you might be able to have a different heal style.

    Rift has a Chloromancer that heals the group by doing damage.

    SWTOR had a medic that shot people to heal them.



    Where's the creativity?

    Why does SE cater so much to DPS?

    If it had been a Healer instead of a tank, the tanks would be reacting the exact same way the healers are now.


    I played SWTOR for a few years, and yes it was the Operative that could heal by "shooting" and using tecnology. It was actually for a while the OP healer at the time. theres lots of things that can be done. Im still hoping for a reveal of a new healer
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deceptus View Post
    SWTOR had a medic that shot people to heal them.
    Quote Originally Posted by Jib View Post
    I played SWTOR for a few years, and yes it was the Operative that could heal by "shooting" and using tecnology. It was actually for a while the OP healer at the time. theres lots of things that can be done. Im still hoping for a reveal of a new healer
    I was actually hoping the new healer could have been like the operative/scoundrel healers from swtor with a focus on HoT's and a few single target heals when it was needed. Right now the sorc/sage healer is the one that's OP anyway. XD
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    Just been aware of this now ... just seen the trailer now. So Dancer is confirmed on the trailer and is a DPS!? .. im ok with that BUT please we need a NEW healer... dps and tanks are getting love, give us something. Make it chemist, make it.. i dont know.. gives us something ...
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    Dancer was 10000% gonna bea range "physical" dps

    range physical dps are SUPPORT roles so expect dancer to share role actions of MCH and BRD...

    making dancer into a healer role would have been the biggest mistake they would ever make because howthe current 3 healers work...... WHM is having major issues due to ast/sch.... adding dancer to this mix will push WHM right out the window.... which then it be Ast/Dnc or Dnc/Sch due to giving raid buff support

    as people said dnc was only a healer in ffxi because the combat was VERY different then todays

    i would not wanna be a melee dps with a healer/dps stood in melee range because it causes massive issues

    1 = healer targeted mechanics
    this will force melee out of melee range because of a healer mechanic hitting the dancer

    2 = healing nightmare.... dancer as a melee healer would have been a nightmare to balance.... especially since the other 3 healers aint even balanced yet at all

    3 = they would need to redesign ast and sch to even allow dancer to be a healer which people would cry about even more.... especially if sch lost chain strategem and ast loses its cards buffs just to bring in 1 healer who is the buff king.....

    people complain on these forums without actually thinking things through

    dancer would have been 1000% a busted healer and SE worst nightmare to balance around other healers in game
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    I'm neutral to dancer, whatever it's released as, but ranged is slightly awkward.
    Personally i think dps make more sense than healer though.
    But uhm, Yuna and dancing/sending, so why not.
    Well, it's the same deal every expansion, new job: ppl disappointed it wasn't this or that role - problem is the strict class/role system.
    It will 100% happen again next expansion, unless they revamp the whole thing, which will 100% not happen.
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    so i will throw this question out to everyone

    how would u balance the 3 healers to allow dancer to be the 4th healer without upsetting the current healer mains of each job

    so name me how you would do it without screwed the jobs up and not making it be choosen based on "ultility" so that u can bring any healer

    the current meta is crit focus so ast/sch is meta curently.... whm is only used for progression

    whm /sch / ast already have problems as it is now.....
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    I promise nobody thinks about Balance, people just want something new for a Job role that only has 3 Options. Vs the DPS role that has like...8.
    People just like the idea of an Ast with Dance Moves instead of a Draw system, which is pretty much what a Dancer Healer would have been. So to everyone who reads this.....as much as I too would have loved Dancer as a Healer.....its not realistic, it would just step on the shoes of an Already made Healer, and do the same thing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aeliott View Post
    Then Bard should be a healer too? You can't compare a turn based game to XIV, otherwise Paladin would be the only tank, and only because it has Cover and Provoke.
    Back in ye olden days...

    Bard cross-class conjurer skills, and had the Healer limit break.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zanarkand-Ronso View Post
    I promise nobody thinks about Balance, people just want something new for a Job role that only has 3 Options. Vs the DPS role that has like...8.
    People just like the idea of an Ast with Dance Moves instead of a Draw system, which is pretty much what a Dancer Healer would have been. So to everyone who reads this.....as much as I too would have loved Dancer as a Healer.....its not realistic, it would just step on the shoes of an Already made Healer, and do the same thing.
    This is exactly what their doing with the new tank but ok
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    Quote Originally Posted by AkumaHomura View Post
    This is exactly what their doing with the new tank but ok
    What is Gunbreaker doing? Who is it stepping on, what class does the same thing as Gunbreaker..besides be a tank?
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