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    Know what revelation from the keynote that took me by surprise? It's been almost two months and I'm still mad about Kairi and Aqua in KH3. Everyone's excited for Gaia, but I'm not expecting much out of her.
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    I'm so happy that I got it right. This will be interesting.
    Quote Originally Posted by RukiaFae View Post
    What if these three zones are the Uldah, Limsa, and Gridanna versions on the first?
    Two of the zones liked like they could be affected by a flooding of light
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    First of all: I have to admit that I was seemingly wrong with keeping denying that hooded figure is G'raha Tia, even said that him crystallising has no basis or would make sense, but after the trailer: I admit my mistakes.

    Then, with us going as Warriors of Darkness to stop the flood of light and the Crystal Tower, does anyone else think we get a bit too much FF III references/elements thrown in?

    Being the First's version of Gridania/Ul'dah/Limsa or rather, what developed in their place on the First, I think that's a good thought. The places are said to be in the region Norvrandt, the last place not devoured by light, so I suppose Norvrandt = Eorzea of the First.
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    I'm taking Lore way too seriously. And I'm not sorry about that.

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    If they're using the lore excuse that male Viera spend their time hiding (despite also stating that part of a couple generations at least have forgone traditions and moved out of the Wood, iirc), then why are male Miqo'te still a player race? Keepers are practically a commodity and only wander between Keeper settlements to breed, right? Seekers are more forgiving but even they tend to stick with their tribes, no? Why's the lore suddenly matter so much? And how exactly are furry Roegadyn with horned heads (Hrothgar) going to be received in ARR/HW if Yugiri went out of her way to hide her appearance because it startled people?

    Heck, the Viera and Miqo'te even have similar male to female birth rates don't they?

    And why do we have Duskwights too? They all live in caves or are bandits.
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    Norvrandt! That was the name of the region! So Norvrandt = Eorzea of the First or such.

    Also, looking at your starting post Anonymoose, I think they hinted that there wasn't really a Crystal Tower on the First, following with a 'hmmm' and some silence. So I throw out the guess that it's actually the Crystal Tower of the Source and we use it as our 'ship' for inter-shard travel, bringing it there.
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    I'm taking Lore way too seriously. And I'm not sorry about that.

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    Looks like the hub city is based on the FFXIV concept video and it does look like it has a little bit of Limsa Lominsa, Gridania and Ul'dah architecture.

    With them revealing Hrothgar, I do hope that we either get a character appearance or lore about them in the next patch because we know nothing about them outside of them being called Ronso in the other shard. I guess we can use Ronso lore in the meantime?

    After playing the Mass Effect trilogy while I was on break, I'm starting to wonder if the Asciens did some social engineering in each Shard. If worlds are somewhat similar to each other in culture, magic, etc then it will be easier for them to cause calamities.
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    If Lalafell are a beast tribe in the first world, how did Lamimi end up in team darkness?
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    The tiniest lala.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PotatoTree View Post
    If Lalafell are a beast tribe in the first world, how did Lamimi end up in team darkness?
    She was the Vath Deftarm of the first.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RicaRuin View Post
    First of all: I have to admit that I was seemingly wrong with keeping denying that hooded figure is G'raha Tia, even said that him crystallising has no basis or would make sense, but after the trailer: I admit my mistakes.
    Don't apologize too strongly just yet. Even though his face in profile is an exact match as to what we can see, there's a little extra bump in the back of the robe where his stubby tail would be covered, and the Crystal Tower is definitely involved, we actually can't rule out a parallel world clone just yet. We can assume that there aren't generally parallel world clones running around, but if there's any Ascian involvement at all in preserving the lineage of Desch (or if Desch and/or G'raha's mysterious "father" was an Ascian), it's possible that our G'raha is/was simply one of many duplicates across the Shards.


    Basically, we could all be right and wrong at once.


    Quote Originally Posted by RicaRuin View Post
    I think they hinted that there wasn't really a Crystal Tower on the First, following with a 'hmmm' and some silence. So I throw out the guess that it's actually the Crystal Tower of the Source and we use it as our 'ship' for inter-shard travel, bringing it there.
    Crystallium looks like it was built around it over a period of time, so either G'raha did some stuff when he sealed himself inside the tower, or the Crystal Tower is actually an Ascian design that they've installed near the geographical equivalent of Silvertear on possibly every shard towards some end.


    (Also, yes, Rapture hype is real!)
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    Last edited by Fenral; 03-23-2019 at 12:52 PM.

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    So I did post a while back that Thancred and Minfilia seemed to be in Limsa, as a close architectural match to what little I could see in the trailer... evidently I wasn't (couldn't be) quite right, but I did identify it correctly!

    Although other parts of the new city seem to be drawing on Ul'dahn architectural elements instead. Distinct tapered columns and such.



    Quote Originally Posted by Cilia View Post
    Well, depending on how far back the dimensional fracture occurred time-wise, there shouldn't be too much of a geological difference. That takes millions of years or cataclysmic events (i.e. meteor strikes)... if it was only ~10,000 years ago, there wouldn't be too much of a difference. (Wasn't the first Calamity 10,000 years ago? I don't remember where I heard that or if I just made it up whole cloth...)
    I was thinking about this the other day actually... Calamities occur on the Source, but what about the shards? Clearly the Crystal Tower of the First was not swallowed in the earthquake of the Third Calamity (as much as I struggle to believe an entire tower manages to drop into the earth without a trace anyway, let alone pop up again later).

    It's possible that the First hasn't suffered any of the cataclysmic changes that Calamities bring to the Source.



    Quote Originally Posted by MrThinker View Post
    they said that the sundering was actually 12000 years ago no?
    Have we known this exact(ish) date before? I don't think the lorebook gives timeframes for anything before the Allagan Empire.
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