Vote kick, early pulls, and disruptive behavior

[Ilan]

That's true, but for many classes, those openers include skills on rather long cooldown. That may eat 30+sec of time. At that point it's putting the cart before the horse.

Except on-level Savage/Extreme/Ultimate, the difference between starting 15sec-30sec earlier without opener and waiting for everyone to get ready for their perfect opener is actually very much in advantage of starting earlier. Proper opener is superior literally ONLY if it will allow skipping of a difficult phase (not needed on older content) or prevent an enrage (not needed on anything below current Savage/Extreme/Ultimate content). And you can actually do that "opener" when the skill will get off cooldown too, you know. It's pure math.

PS: Openers may be annoying to tanks that are new/low-geared since they burst a ton of enmity that the tank may not be fully prepared for. Especially since there are people with their cool openers that "don't have that off-global cooldown slot" for Diversion etc.

Most classes are completly fine with 15 seconds, its not too long and not to short and it also doesn't hurt anyone if there is a pulltimer. Also a proper opener will lead to the boss dying faster which means less dmg to mitigate and less mess ups. I know most people can't be bothered with playing properly but that is not the topic here, especially not these intelligent people who don't use diversion cause "u don't pay ma sub brah".

[RitsukoSonoda]

If we're talking about 24 man duties to be honest aside from the last chest and intentionally trying to get people to leave by not rolling, most of the trolling I've encountered on these duties is performed by 1 entire party in the alliance intentionally messing up a mechanic to cause a wipe.