Vote kick, early pulls, and disruptive behavior

[LalaRu]

People who wants troll entire alliances will just pull bosses to avoid the vote kick enabled. And of course they don't roll items so they get a 5 minutes "immunity" on top of that.

How to avoid that?

Sometime if you are fast enough you may trigger vote-kick before it goes locked, but it must not be a race to who is faster in the draw, 'tho.

Only option here today is filing reports... but the damage is already done.

My suggestion:
when chests comes, the next step/passage/door/whatever keeps locked until all items are handled down.

[Brightamethyst]

My suggestion:
when chests comes, the next step/passage/door/whatever keeps locked until all items are handled down.

That would probably just result in even easier trolling. One person in a 24-man doesn't roll and the entire raid is stuck in place for the next 5 minutes. That sure sounds fun.

[JunseiKei]

Ask the alliance to wait for your roll timer to pass and to not enter the fight, especially if the person has been AFKing or auto attacking. I can honestly say I have yet to be in an alliance where the other two teams didn't want to wait so we could vote dismiss someone. Really, most of these things are easily resolved by communicating with your fellow players.

[Bonbori]

A much simpler solution that wouldn't lead to giving trolls even more tools to troll with would be to simply reduce the loot timer to like... 2-3 minutes? The trash packs between bosses take about that much time to get past, so this would sync up nicely and offer a substantial window of kickopportunity in between the trash pull and the next boss.

[Doozer]

Only option here today is filing reports... but the damage is already done.

Maybe so, but people who troll tend to do it often (and the complain on the forums why they got banned for saying a single Bad Word like we'd believe that), so reporting them can help get them out and prevent them from doing it in the future, since you're probably not the only one who's experienced it.

[Seraphor]

Ask the alliance to wait for your roll timer to pass and to not enter the fight, especially if the person has been AFKing or auto attacking. I can honestly say I have yet to be in an alliance where the other two teams didn't want to wait so we could vote dismiss someone. Really, most of these things are easily resolved by communicating with your fellow players.

But there's nothing to stop the troll from initiating the next fight just as the timer expires.

[Astrus]

But there's nothing to stop the troll from initiating the next fight just as the timer expires.

In which case you'd just let them die, then initiate the kick.

[LalaRu]

That would probably just result in even easier trolling. One person in a 24-man doesn't roll and the entire raid is stuck in place for the next 5 minutes. That sure sounds fun.

That can happen just once, you see in the logs who last rolled, and you have time for the vote kick before he initiate combat again. Better lose 5 minutes than the whole duty.

[Penthea]

I tend to deal with it by standing around doing nothing. Counter-troll the troll. They can't do combat on their own and loot rolls have timers.

I do inform the others that this is what I'm going to do so they know I'm not trolling as well. And of course so they can join in so it works. I have only done this around three times in my several years of playing this game though. I rarely feel a strong need to kick someone.

My suggestion:
when chests comes, the next step/passage/door/whatever keeps locked until all items are handled down.

Then they could troll by preventing people from doing the instance by forcing them to sit there for a few minutes before they can continue to finish the content. Sure it means you can eventually initiate the kick but it's not really solving the issue as it would merely be replacing it with another one.

[Daniolaut]

How does one "early pull" in an alliance raid?

Those dungeons are extremely long, with the most down time (not fighting any enemies) in the game, and you want it to go even slower? Everyone has access to sprint, no reason not to use it. I praise anyone who makes a dungeon go faster.