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Last edited by PPG4LIFE; 04-10-2019 at 03:46 PM.
You report people you want to insult? I hope you just worded that wrong.
And still, teasing isn't a defense. People don't just get slapped with punishment because they said 'butt' instead of 'but'. There's more to this, I'm sure of it.
Thats now the thing, i never insult ppl i only tease others, but i never use cursing words towards others, cus if i want to insult them i mostly ignore them and fill out a report after where i explain everything into details, but i never ever did curse like how u meant it.
Unless they did punish me on my own BUT word, i mostly say butt instead of but, it just goes automatically, but then again, thats just a teasement, not meant as bad word, and i really cant see which is normally censored and what not.Yeah, I’m fairly certain “butt” won’t even fall into the “Profanity” category. It’s unlikely it wasn’t something more than “butt”. Either a “worse” curse word, or you used a slur.
If you were using a curse word even as a light tease and someone interpreted as an insult, they could have reported you for it and you will be punished for it if they took offense or thought you were insulting them; regardless of your intent. Either way, you were reported for using profanity and received a strike for it.
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That is (still) not what the ToS says. It says you may get punished regardless of intent. Not will. It is an option for the GM to apply if necessary.
Never mind, thinking of the wrong part of the ToS.
Last edited by Iscah; 03-20-2019 at 04:42 AM.
Read the context — Profanity and usage of profanity are actually written in the ToS as being punishable offenses. This is not about that one clause in Prohibited Activities you like to quote about intent, and how punishment may be bestowed if you’re found to violate the rules. If you’re reported for cursing, you’re going to be talked to about it—it’s fairly black-and-white in this instance. The severity of the swear—as well as any prior reports—are likely to determine which kind of “talking to” you get (e.g., warning, temp-ban, etc.).That is (still) not what the ToS says. It says you may get punished regardless of intent. Not will. It is an option for the GM to apply if necessary.
And as I have said before, I expect it's to be applied when someone claims they didn't mean offence, but clearly did, and the GM needs more power than "one person's word against another" - and to solve what was apparently an issue with the old ToS that someone couldn't get in trouble for doing something unless they explicitly stated they were doing it deliberately.
My talk about “whether this was your intent or not” is more so applied in a sense of “you were talking to people who obviously are aware that you use this kind of language—but Bobby over there saw your language and he didn’t like it, so he reported you for it”.
You’re more likely to get punished for cursing in this game than anything else because it’s something that can be easily confirmed via logs. If you’ve cursed before and have walked off scot-free, that’s more likely because you were never reported. Not that a GM read the report and was like “meh, it was okay for them to use the F-word this time”.
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Ah, of course. I'm up too late and context did not compute.
And yes, I do "like to quote" it (but not because I like bringing it up over and over), because people keep misinterpreting it and ranting against the misinterpretation as if it were fact. And I hate incorrect information getting passed around.
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Last edited by PPG4LIFE; 04-10-2019 at 03:46 PM.
From the chat logs — GMs have access to all of the chat logs in-game (including “private” ones like FC and LS), so if you cursed in chat and someone reported you, that’s where the strike came from. It’s unlikely that it was an error or an accident, since the GMs are required to go over chat logs when someone reports an occurrence in said logs.
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If you were reported for profanity usage, it has little to do with what kind of person you are. It’s strictly “You said a bad word”. Nothing more, nothing less. Obviously, punishments can be harsher if you are cursing someone out in a very blatant, confrontational way, or throwing slurs at people; but if you let slip a curse word or slur—even in your “liveliness”—it doesn’t matter how nice and helpful you are. You broke The Rules, and that’s what the GM sees.Wow, including Private, i only talk in private chats with only friends and the FC is like dead, but there its also only with a friend, so i refuse while i had my penalty to become boring in chats, and when people say something to me like: That one is so boring dont u think, then they just have to add me on my discord, and there i will be full of life as im normally also am and not boring at all.
Alot people find me fun and are glad they found me ingame, because they normally never see such of talkative people ingame to talk casually with.
Like one day i did do once Heaven-on-High on my scholar and said straight at the begin what i think about the class i did lvlup, then someone did react on that and so on we talked alot and became friends and done together even more Heaven-on-High runs. So i mostly always make friends, cus im very casual in talking not acting like a hostile, im always open to help others, ofc stuff can happen or i can do somethings wrong, but i also am just a human, everyone makes mistakes, like in one dungeon i made once 2 mistakes where someone else kept joking about it the entires dungeon so i became mad ofc. anyways im also full of stories which i also always did tell to everyone, which i cant do anymore, since there might be offending stuffs in it for others, only i just dont know on that. Mostly if i do a dungeon, i care more about comfortable party members over pro mean people.
But if i talk in private chats, then its only to friends or to people i wanna apologize to.
The same thing happens just about every day on these forums—I know more people who have been banned because they said (or quoted) a curse word. We aren’t supposed to use them, so I can only recommend to use more caution in the future.
That’s fine, but don’t apply it to scenarios where it’s not applicable. This isn’t about intent or the possibility of punishments—it’s about OP said a wordy-durd and got a strike for it. That’s something I think the GMs are particularly rigorous about.Ah, of course. I'm up too late and context did not compute.
And yes, I do "like to quote" it (but not because I like bringing it up over and over), because people keep misinterpreting it and ranting against the misinterpretation as if it were fact. And I hate incorrect information getting passed around.
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