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    Quote Originally Posted by HyoMinPark View Post
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    Not incorrect at all. Enmity reducers in this game, honestly, are just a crutch for poor tank play. Even when the highest DPSers are going all out (and does not use Enmity reducers), and they pull aggro, something went wrong with the tank.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ilan View Post
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    Ah, yes, how wonderful these counter-arguments are: accusing me of not knowing what I'm talking about and heavily implying I'm ignorant. Wonderful. No, I know what I'm talking about. Enmity reducers are a crutch. If you can't handle DPSers that don't use Diversion, you may want to re-think tanking.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eli85 View Post
    Ah, yes, how wonderful these counter-arguments are: accusing me of not knowing what I'm talking about and heavily implying I'm ignorant. Wonderful. No, I know what I'm talking about. Enmity reducers are a crutch. If you can't handle DPSers that don't use Diversion, you may want to re-think tanking.
    Lmao what? A crutch? You actually have no idea what you're talking about it's just common sense how do I do my burst without pulling threat? Diversion. This game revolves around burst damage and Diversion literally costs you 1 OGCD so you can properly DPS without building up hate, I'd love to see you tank a BLM who has a Foul and goes ham when you just used Shield Lob/Unmend/Tomahawk who actually is geared and knows their rotation you'd be like "WhY aReN't YoU uSiNg DiVeRsIoN!?" or hell any kind of tank.

    You are ignorant it's pretty easy to see that you don't understand that Diversion only helps you DPS and help the tank it's not some trophy to pull hate from the tank specially in Savage when you have to Shrik while being out of tank stance to DPS unless you're a turtle tank then yeah you'll never understand.
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    DPS refusing to use diversion for whatever reason while it's just a one-pressed-button-job-done it's just laughable to read.
    Because why make things easier when you can make it worse right.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eli85 View Post
    Not incorrect at all. Enmity reducers in this game, honestly, are just a crutch for poor tank play. Even when the highest DPSers are going all out (and does not use Enmity reducers), and they pull aggro, something went wrong with the tank.



    Ah, yes, how wonderful these counter-arguments are: accusing me of not knowing what I'm talking about and heavily implying I'm ignorant. Wonderful. No, I know what I'm talking about. Enmity reducers are a crutch. If you can't handle DPSers that don't use Diversion, you may want to re-think tanking.
    Pls learn first how this game works, before you give advice to other ppl
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eli85 View Post
    Not incorrect at all. Enmity reducers in this game, honestly, are just a crutch for poor tank play. Even when the highest DPSers are going all out (and does not use Enmity reducers), and they pull aggro, something went wrong with the tank.



    Ah, yes, how wonderful these counter-arguments are: accusing me of not knowing what I'm talking about and heavily implying I'm ignorant. Wonderful. No, I know what I'm talking about. Enmity reducers are a crutch. If you can't handle DPSers that don't use Diversion, you may want to re-think tanking.
    Hahahaha.

    This post is so hilariously painful that it broke my 2 year lurk streak.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eli85 View Post
    Not incorrect at all. Enmity reducers in this game, honestly, are just a crutch for poor tank play. Even when the highest DPSers are going all out (and does not use Enmity reducers), and they pull aggro, something went wrong with the tank.



    Ah, yes, how wonderful these counter-arguments are: accusing me of not knowing what I'm talking about and heavily implying I'm ignorant. Wonderful. No, I know what I'm talking about. Enmity reducers are a crutch. If you can't handle DPSers that don't use Diversion, you may want to re-think tanking.
    Diversion is a crutch for poor tank play? Please.

    You are absolutely ignorant of how important Diversion is; that's why people are treating you as such. Your posts sound exactly like something someone who has never played DPS or tanks at a high skill level would say.

    EDIT: Yep. Doesn't even have tanks unlocked, save for DRK - which is level 30. But you obviously know what you're talking about when it comes to tank aggro, tank play, and Diversion. Give me a break. Play a tank at level 70 against a good DPS that refuses to quell their aggro, and then come back to me about how Diversion is a crutch.

    Quote Originally Posted by MorbolvampireQueen6 View Post
    i honesty doubt that anyone is wearing below maybe 59 gear for shi or ghost .. after that sure and honestly when i upped my rdm to 70 i had my 59 wep till lvl 69 cuz bad rng and was not going 2 pay 100k for a weapon of white quality and was just fine
    "I doubt this actually happens."
    "I used a level 59 weapon until Castrum Abania."

    Congratulations on your contradiction.


    Your weapon in anything past Gubal Library (NM) was a hinderance. It didn't seem like a problem because your parties for the other dungeons carried you (for some reason). Don't be lazy - buy a decent weapon. 270 Shire weapons can be purchased for half the poetics they used to cost, and last until Bardam's/Doma for DPS jobs. This game barfs tomestones at you, so use them. Stop being a hinderance.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eli85 View Post
    Not incorrect at all. Enmity reducers in this game, honestly, are just a crutch for poor tank play. Even when the highest DPSers are going all out (and does not use Enmity reducers), and they pull aggro, something went wrong with the tank.



    Ah, yes, how wonderful these counter-arguments are: accusing me of not knowing what I'm talking about and heavily implying I'm ignorant. Wonderful. No, I know what I'm talking about. Enmity reducers are a crutch. If you can't handle DPSers that don't use Diversion, you may want to re-think tanking.
    It is obvious that you don't know what you are talking about and that you are ignorant otherwhise you wouldn't spread such nonsense. Emnity control is the job of the whole party and if you are using your emnity control properly the tank can drop tankstance and also deal more dps. But hey you know better anyway, right? May the shirk be with you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Canadane View Post
    Good talk, all. Glad we had it.
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