Quote Originally Posted by Yshal View Post
I feel like it wouldn't be such a large issue if people didn't expect tanks to always mass pull.

I tend to only pull one pack at a time if I'm not familiar with a dungeon or if the healer or dps look a little under geared. So my dungeon takes like 5 minutes longer? Big whoop.

If a tank is getting 1 shot or a healer is running oom, sure there's an issue. But we're talking about slower clear speeds right? We're not talking about a wipe fest?
Quote Originally Posted by Awful View Post
That's not the issue we're talking about I couldn't care less if they mass pull or whatever what we're talking about is having people who are massively under geared I had a Sirensong Sea today with 2 people who's average item level was around 160 160!, you can be slightly undergeared and mass pull that's fine ilvl 240 mass pulling? It can be done. A tank mass pulling in ilvl 160 in a dungeon that drops 260 gear? They're gonna die in seconds that's what we're talking about as well as having DPS who have appropriate gear (Bards having DEX accessories vs having INT/MND gear) the issue isn't mass pulling it's people who are too lazy to upgrade their gear.

Here's an example of what we're talking about



This guys avg ilvl is probably about 188? It's unupgraded ilvl 200 AF gear that's a no go when you can easily take an hour out of your time in a day and get 2000 Poetics for some easy 260 gear there's no excuse.
^ this is the issue i want the devs to try to address i do not care how tanks will pull dungeons i do not care if a dungeon takes a little while longer i do care you coming into things with half the hp i have as a hlr because you are only a burden at that point