Add ilv requirement please in ShB[Dev Request]

[Driskus]

I had a tank in the Royal Menagerie with i280 gear and maybe a couple i300. The other tank didn't want to tank. As an AST, I basically tanked Shinryu more than both of them together.

That gear level seems normal for first-timers going in there. Also, I'm pretty sure there isn't an ilvl sync for Shinryu, so a new tank will definitely have to work harder if the majority of the party is at 370+. Most of the time I end up in there, I typically have more HP as a healer (due to 380/390 gear) than a tank if they're new. I feel like SE should have put a 350 or so sync on it just to keep it from getting too far out of control. As long as they can get the mechanics figured out it almost always goes well, even if some random over-geared players end up taking some hits occasionally. As far as the other tank, that was definitely a lazy/bad one. They should have stepped up and at least tried to hold top aggro so only one DPS or healer would get hit if the other tank couldn't keep up.

[Liam_Harper]

That gear level seems normal for first-timers going in there. Also, I'm pretty sure there isn't an ilvl sync for Shinryu, so a new tank will definitely have to work harder if the majority of the party is at 370+.

In this case the new tank should go tank stance and use only emnity combo's. They have no need to do otherwise when the party is full of 370+'s and has dps in buckets. This even makes the new tanks life easier, they're more durable and can just 1, 2, 3 to victory.


Tanks have the tools to generate absolutely ridiculous amounts of emnity if they want to.

[Eldevern]

Never had problems? Lucky you.

When you are going through Stone Vigil and the tank still has level 18 jewlery or later dungeons or raid, you see players with crafting or gathering gear only to get the ilvl requirment, it starts to become a real problem (who said plague?).

The last three days I did the levelling roulette (last was yesterday): three times the Stone Vigil (the normal), three times we wipe because of wrong skill AND gear form both or either, tank, dps or heal. Three days, three times. I gave up doing this roulette, I don't need it anyway but it makes PU kinda frightening.

Or when you see tank in level 17 dungeon both undergeared and with dps gear, giving hard time to the healer.

Or...Oh wait I have glamour stuff from veteran, I will play with it rather than using proper gear -_-

[LalaRu]

I think asking, from a given point onward, to have the job crystal equipped on duties, is not a bad thing and helps players understand there is a job after level 30.

[Kuroka]

Aaaaand just after reading this i got an MCH in Mhach with an lv 30 weapon. Yes, the very first one youll get from unlocking the job...

Honestly, we need ilvl locks on dungeons and EVERYTHING, job quests should be a must and they even should require you a to have a certain min ilvl... >_>

[JackHatchet]

Just vote kick the people out and be done with it.

Also, I think the people who say 'quests throw gear at you' are short-sighted and missing the point. It's not newbies who go in under-geared. It's the vets who are leveling up a side-job and can't be bothered to keep their gear maintained beyond lvl 50. They know better, but don't care, because there's no consequences to it. So fix that. Vote kick those people out immediately, and replace them with a better player.

[MrThinker]

It's not newbies who go in under-geared. It's the vets who are leveling up a side-job and can't be bothered to keep their gear maintained beyond lvl 50. They know better, but don't care, because there's no consequences to it.

Mostly true, but there are some new players that consistently forget to hit the 'recommended gear' button.

So fix that. Vote kick those people out immediately, and replace them with a better player.

OR make it so that such situations are impossible in the first place by adding min ilvl requirements.

[shiroxkatsuya]

Just vote kick the people out and be done with it.

Also, I think the people who say 'quests throw gear at you' are short-sighted and missing the point. It's not newbies who go in under-geared. It's the vets who are leveling up a side-job and can't be bothered to keep their gear maintained beyond lvl 50. They know better, but don't care, because there's no consequences to it. So fix that. Vote kick those people out immediately, and replace them with a better player.

or we could just add a minimum ilvl. Fixes so many issues

[Kurando]

Vote kick those people out immediately, and replace them with a better player.

Then they never learn and get to requeue for a duty again afterwards without any kind of penalty. Plus there is the whole waiting 5mins (or was it 10mins?) issue once a duty has started, can't dismiss during loot rolls, and depending on the role players might not want to spend a long time waiting for a replacement.

[MrThinker]

I'm pretty sure you can vote kick at any time, and its the 'vote abandon' that has time in instance requirement. Nevertheless, the rest of your points still stand.

EDIT: I stand corrected