Some thoughts about the items on sell on the mog station

[AlliciaCapulet]

Everytime I browse the Mog Station and see new mounts, pets or glamour that you have to pay, I feel that it's super wrong from Square Enix to do that.

I don't mind them to sell items from the past events, we had a chance to get them for free. But, items that comes out, without any events, they are the one that I feel it's super wrong. We already pay a monthly subscription, and I actually prefer MMOs who are doing that, because that way we avoid having a cash shop where you need to spend lots of money if you want to get the mounts, glamour and pet. Also, the price are just going up, it's not just 5-10$ for a mount but almost always 30$ now. I really feel that Square Enix needs to stop doing that and always be giving a chance to get those item for free, even if it's just a 1 week or 2 week event...

I also don't mind exclusive special items/emotes that you get from buying a product, like the artbook for example, that's a cool bonus and they never end on the Mog Station, so they stay exclusive.

[Theodric]

They're luxury products specifically designed to be sold to players willing to pay a premium for bonus goods. It's a sound business practice and a highly successful one.

[Enla]

They're luxury products specifically designed to be sold to players willing to pay a premium for bonus goods. It's a sound business practice and a highly successful one.

Not to mention that I do remember hearing that the Mog Station was one of the few avenues of money making that mostly goes back into FFXIV; though I'm having a hell of a time sourcing that claim so if anyone has a source that proves or disproves that I'd be grateful! Also most of the exclusive items that aren't event based on the Mog Station these days were either exclusively designed for it /or/ turn overs from international events for the game. Korea and China both have events that we aren't privvy to in the rest of the world and rather than keep the items from us entirely as they used to do, we now get the chance to get them off the Mog Station instead. It's not exactly ideal, but for me it is a better alternative to never getting those items to begin with.

Honestly I'm not the biggest fan of the prices either, but as the saying goes you need to vote with your wallet. I stopped buying most things from the Mog Station when their prices grew beyond what I was comfortable with.

[Jandor]

Not to mention that I do remember hearing that the Mog Station was one of the few avenues of money making that mostly goes back into FFXIV; though I'm having a hell of a time sourcing that claim so if anyone has a source that proves or disproves that I'd be grateful!

• Spend the cash shop proceeds on the game and blow all that sweet sub money on FFXV DLC.
  
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• Spend the subscription money on the game and use the big stack of cash shop funds to do a HD FFVII remake.

Doesn't really matter. End result is the same.

At best the shop is making us look a little better in financial reports and leading to FFXIV getting allocated a little more funding. Maybe.

[BristolRuss]

They're luxury products specifically designed to be sold to players willing to pay a premium for bonus goods. It's a sound business practice and a highly successful one.

There were luxury items before the cash shop came along as well, but they were all obtainable with effort instead of opening your wallet. The cashshop is a shill pure and simple.

What they should do is just make cash shop items sellable on the market board. That way people opposed to the cash shop can get it for gil if they want (albeit for a very high fee), and the person selling gets well paid. It would also have the benefit of fighting illegal RMT by keeping the RMT in-house. Why go to some shady site and give them your credit card details for some gil when you can just buy a Cloud bike and sell it on the MB for 150m.

[Gula]

There were luxury items before the cash shop came along as well, but they were all obtainable with effort instead of opening your wallet. The cashshop is a shill pure and simple.

What they should do is just make cash shop items sellable on the market board. That way people opposed to the cash shop can get it for gil if they want (albeit for a very high fee), and the person selling gets well paid. It would also have the benefit of fighting illegal RMT by keeping the RMT in-house. Why go to some shady site and give them your credit card details for some gil when you can just buy a Cloud bike and sell it on the MB for 150m.

It sucks you can't do this honestly. Especially for housing. Sure you can have a convoluted in game work around (and leave it to the roll of dice so the person doesn't just keep your items), but it'd be a lot more simple to just have the gold walls on the MB for 10m.

[Eldevern]

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Housing items in mog station when we can lose housing, that pretty the thing that makes me say : either some items should be account wide or housing need a revamp, we shouldn't have the risk to lose housing as they initially "promised". Worst, if it is a FC house, other players can stole the items we purchase if we place them in FC house (Yes I'm pretty angry against cherry tree).

That pretty one of the main reason why I almost boycott mog station items.

(Or I'm wrong and they drop the delay while we can get back items coming from housing if we lose house? From what I remember, there are only less housing items destroyed in the same time we lose the house, but not the delay while we can get back items to the pnj).

[linay]

There were luxury items before the cash shop came along as well, but they were all obtainable with effort instead of opening your wallet. The cashshop is a shill pure and simple.

What they should do is just make cash shop items sellable on the market board. That way people opposed to the cash shop can get it for gil if they want (albeit for a very high fee), and the person selling gets well paid. It would also have the benefit of fighting illegal RMT by keeping the RMT in-house. Why go to some shady site and give them your credit card details for some gil when you can just buy a Cloud bike and sell it on the MB for 150m.

No!

People who don't like the cash shop don't need to get anything from it. They shouldn't get to use their overabundance of gil to get something that would normally cost real world money.

At the same time, people also shouldn't get to use their overabundance of real world money to get extra gil that should be acquired via gameplay. If they want to risk going the RMT way, then that's their problem.

I dislike the idea of WoW token and I hope nothing similar to that ever comes to FFXIV.

[Mavrias]

No!

People who don't like the cash shop don't need to get anything from it. They shouldn't get to use their overabundance of gil to get something that would normally cost real world money.

At the same time, people also shouldn't get to use their overabundance of real world money to get extra gil that should be acquired via gameplay. If they want to risk going the RMT way, then that's their problem.

I dislike the idea of WoW token and I hope nothing similar to that ever comes to FFXIV.

Can I ask why you feel this way?

[linay]

Can I ask why you feel this way?

When I'm farming for gil, I want the value of that work to not be eroded by real world money shortcut.

When the company decides that something is worth extra real money, I want the value of that money to not be eroded by game time. I think selling old seasonal items that can no longer be earned in game is the best of both worlds as it rewards people who were subscribed when the item was earnable in game, but allows future players to earn it with money knowing that is the only means left to them to earn it.