The Weapon's Refrain (Ultimate) synced weapons bug

[Hussain]

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Date & Time: 14th of March 2019 - 8:40 pm gmt
Frequency: all the time
World name: Ragnarok
Character name: Maru Yumalnoh
Retainer name:
NPC name:
Monster name: Garuda-Ifrit-Titan-Ultima weapon
Class/Level: 70 - Brd and all physical jobs
Party or solo: party
In-game time: 8:40 pm gmt
Area and coordinates: The Minstrel's Ballad: The Weapon's Refrain (Ultimate)
Housing:
Steps:
1. http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...52#post4909452 this post that's been moved to Insufficient informations explains the problem
2. weapons that are +375 syncs down to -1 weapon damage which is frustrating since we've put a lot of time to farm eureka for a good weapon for ultimates. and this problem occurs because Sigmascape savage weapons had this problem as well (physical jobs) when they had the same weapon damage as tome weapons and because this was fixed manually , weapons when synced down go to tome weapons WD value which is -1 than Diamond weapons
3. it is very noticable to see the dmg difference between synced weapons and Diamond weapons. my relic should do more dmg than Diamond weapon since it has a very strong roll. https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachmen...46868/brdd.png
*Add more steps if necessary


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[Commander_Justitia]

The same happens if you go second coil savage as a character with lvl60 or 70 weapons. The dreadwyrm weapons i135 are better than a synced down i405 weapon. It actually makes a little sense there because you shouldnt be allowed to get better gear than i130 because it was the max ilvl at lvl 50. But in ultimate i345 and i375 are allowed.
As you said the current sync system doesn't take 5 ilvl difference into account for weapons. Any weapon higher than i370 (when not diamond i375 weapons) will get synced down to i370.
I am unsure why you think it is only physical jobs that are affected, mage/healer weapons are -1 weapon damage too at i370.

[Hussain]

The same happens if you go second coil savage as a character with lvl60 or 70 weapons. The dreadwyrm weapons i135 are better than a synced down i405 weapon. It actually makes a little sense there because you shouldnt be allowed to get better gear than i130 because it was the max ilvl at lvl 50. But in ultimate i345 and i375 are allowed.
As you said the current sync system doesn't take 5 ilvl difference into account for weapons. Any weapon higher than i370 (when not diamond i375 weapons) will get synced down to i370.
I am unsure why you think it is only physical jobs that are affected, mage/healer weapons are -1 weapon damage too at i370.

No , relics sync down to 345 in UCoB and have the same weapon damage as genji weapons.
in UwU relics also sync down to 375 and will have the same stats as diamond weapons BUT because physical jobs savage weapons had the same weapon dmg as 370 weapons when sigma was released , relics sync down to that value which is obv a bug since casters relics have the same WD as diamond.
they did a fix for physical jobs diamond weapons after sigma was released to fix that

[Hussain]

The same happens if you go second coil savage as a character with lvl60 or 70 weapons. The dreadwyrm weapons i135 are better than a synced down i405 weapon. It actually makes a little sense there because you shouldnt be allowed to get better gear than i130 because it was the max ilvl at lvl 50. But in ultimate i345 and i375 are allowed.
As you said the current sync system doesn't take 5 ilvl difference into account for weapons. Any weapon higher than i370 (when not diamond i375 weapons) will get synced down to i370.
I am unsure why you think it is only physical jobs that are affected, mage/healer weapons are -1 weapon damage too at i370.

Also another thing to point out is what you said here "because you shouldnt be allowed to get better gear than i130 because it was the max ilvl at lvl 50" this isn't true in ultimates because you can get better gear than savage by getting dung gear and the same thing applies to relics.
So the fact that relics only in The Weapon's Refrain (Ultimate) synced down to 375 with the same stats as Diamond weapons but the weapon dmg for physical jobs is 100% a bug cause it doesn't apply to casters.
go test it if you want
I'm sure SE are aware of it