Two Months of BLU: Discuss!

[Auryan]

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I was a bit harsh earlier when I said that I didn't care for your ideas. I think a lot of it is interesting, they just don't align with my fantasies for these jobs. And I think that's why these kind of topics are so difficult to discuss since everyone has a job fantasy they wish could come true. And then reality hits and it just reaches an almost personal area.

And thanks for clarifying the part about the Bard music playing. I understand what you were going with now. Which is like I said earlier, all very interesting. Where I differ is that the ilvl part seems to walk back on the social interactions of the current BLU. I really loved that about the gathering part where people would just create parties to hunt for spells. It also was a blast getting to tank a dungeon as BLU and watching as the rest keep everyone alive with WW or crowd control. The fact that it was the job where people actually communicated with each other is what I love about it. And I want SE to nurture that.

I do like your shepherd idea, but feel that it's probably a better idea to put that as a brand new DoL job than a limited. Maybe as a part of Farmer. I've been reading more people mentioning an idea like that for a while now. I think you should theory craft some potential gathering or crafting jobs to add to the game. I would enjoy reading it.

[Shougun]

I was a bit harsh earlier when I said that I didn't care for your ideas. I think a lot of it is interesting, they just don't align with my fantasies for these jobs. And I think that's why these kind of topics are so difficult to discuss since everyone has a job fantasy they wish could come true. And then reality hits and it just reaches an almost personal area.

And thanks for clarifying the part about the Bard music playing. I understand what you were going with now. Which is like I said earlier, all very interesting. Where I differ is that the ilvl part seems to walk back on the social interactions of the current BLU. I really loved that about the gathering part where people would just create parties to hunt for spells. It also was a blast getting to tank a dungeon as BLU and watching as the rest keep everyone alive with WW or crowd control. The fact that it was the job where people actually communicated with each other is what I love about it. And I want SE to nurture that.

I do like your shepherd idea, but feel that it's probably a better idea to put that as a brand new DoL job than a limited. Maybe as a part of Farmer. I've been reading more people mentioning an idea like that for a while now. I think you should theory craft some potential gathering or crafting jobs to add to the game. I would enjoy reading it.

Totally respect that, also thanks for being so kind. My favorite forum interactions don't need to be in full hand clasped dancing in agreement just not like "YOUR IDEA IS DUMB DUMB" lol (disagreeing isn't that, I mean insulting each other of course). Being friendly trying to see eye to eye even if it doesn't mean full on board is more fun. Kalise I feel definitely has the more social idea so I can see why that's seen as a friendly concept. I did suggest you could take your OPness, or your underleveled-ness (due to missing skills), and still have fun with friends (either because you're duo-ing raids/savage/ultimate content or because you haven't collected enough spells) but you're right that the end result of a /very/ strong limited blue mage (in my vision of it) would reduce social aspect of the limited side (such that our fully decked out lvl 50, nearly or all skills learned, blue mages right now should easily be able to solo all lvl 50 ex and below content).

Definitely reaches a personal area~! I agree, like I respect the simplicity of the other suggested idea here but it doesn't appear to be in a way that sparks my interest (which while I /want/ to be interested in blue, having liked it before, it's true that not all content has to be enjoyed by all players - myself included). That said I'm sure we can all admit sometimes we just don't "see it" until we feel it first hand - so I'm willing to admit I could be wrong, just not seeing it right now.

I might make a shepherd thread at some point then ! I have a few other threads I want to work on too though so not sure when lol. Like my chocobo upgrade thread I'd like to do a mog "update" thread in similar approach, new Sil'Dah raid idea, cid raid, geomancer mage tank (inspired by at least), open world remix for leve content pipeline (high value open world content, but doesn't mess with repeat-spam issues), a reinheart subligar quest idea (just a fun quest dedicated to our old translater), fix up and clarify my memory friendly glamour log and token replacement suggestion, and maybe add another concept to the tackle box pile lol. Also probably need to add a few lines to the Magitek thread once Noct's car comes out, and the airship/chocobo thread sometime soon.

Question, hopefully people don't feel too off topic but, is the reason for being concerned about the shepherd being built into limited because it wouldn't be fully featured or anything else?

One of the reasons I thought it might be neat is each of these "advanced jobs" coming with their own limited system (besides giving SE an excuse to add new systems to the game) could also mean different types of progression (like with Blue Mage you'd level faster due to the shared relationship to the limited side and it's exp bonus, but it balanced out due to looking for some of your DF approved spells). For a very "meh" example you can level summoner and that levels your scholar, this doesn't create massive issues - bad players be bad good players figure it out. So in this you could be a big fan of DoL but want a job to experience MSQ/combat too.

Certainly they could be separated but I believe you could get all the features you wanted to add to the DoL side under the Beastmaster job as well, and in this allow Beastmaster that feeling of being master of beasts (like blue mage would have the feeling of being able to learn hundreds of skills) while also allowing them to play part in normal content. The balanced side having the types of controls SE needs to make sure a job isn't OP or unbalance-able compared to other jobs. It would definitely be a different experience, I think, if you could make your DoL your "main" like that, and because it's a limited type "DoL" it isn't expected to follow the same rules as the other two DoL in how it works and can/can't do. Which is a good and bad thing, for example people who wanted to get into it without getting blue, red, yellow scrips vs perhaps people who did. If I get to writing the thread maybe I'd write it in such a way that the Shepard could be smoothly excised from the beastmaster and placed alone, if one (or SE) thought better to do that.