Two Months of BLU: Discuss!

[Nariel]

when they say its unbalanced or breaks the system, they arent just talking huge dps. They are talking about being a lot less role dominant, Having powerful situational abilities, more control than other jobs, etc.

also the concept that blue has tons of skills that serve the same purpose is overstated. there are very few abilities that serve no purpose.

Situation they most likely only encounter inside the masked carnival because anything else is or too weak to matter or totaly imunised. But its the whole point of the carnival after all, special situation for the blue mage to show of skill existing only for this stage of the carnival.

BLU only exist for Carnival and Carnival only exist for BLU to have a purpose in game just like LoV only exist to show minion skills that exist only to be used inside LoV, outside of it they're just cute little thing just like blue mage is just a cute little wanna-be-a-job to kill trash mob with.

You're okay with that, great for you, but it seems like people expect one of the most iconic job of the Final Fantasy franchise to be more than an underwhelming mini-game.

[Physic]

Situation they most likely only encounter inside the masked carnival because anything else is or too weak to matter or totaly imunised. But its the whole point of the carnival after all, special situation for the blue mage to show of skill existing only for this stage of the carnival.

BLU only exist for Carnival and Carnival only exist for BLU to have a purpose in game just like LoV only exist to show minion skills that exist only to be used inside LoV, outside of it they're just cute little thing just like blue mage is just a cute little wanna-be-a-job to kill trash mob with.

You're okay with that, great for you, but it seems like people expect one of the most iconic job of the Final Fantasy franchise to be more than an underwhelming mini-game.

i disagree completely, the only thing stopping blues abilities from dominating content is the fact they are level blocked or not allowed in content.

Blue would destroy, Eureka, High level HoH, Potd, dungeons, most trials and standard raids. They might not dominate savage raids, due to them being tuned to require peak stats, and negate most game mechanics outside of single target fights.

fact is blues dont need tanks, healers, probably have the most control in the game. They also have a number of powerful situational combos. These traits have use everywhere. Go play blue without a carry, and you begin to see how strong thier kits are. And this is only the level 50 blue.

[Nariel]

i disagree completely, the only thing stopping blues abilities from dominating content is the fact they are level blocked or not allowed in content.

Blue would destroy, Eureka, High level HoH, Potd, dungeons, most trials and standard raids. They might not dominate savage raids, due to them being tuned to require peak stats, and negate most game mechanics outside of single target fights.

fact is blues dont need tanks, healers, probably have the most control in the game. They also have a number of powerful situational combos. These traits have use everywhere. Go play blue without a carry, and you begin to see how strong thier kits are. And this is only the level 50 blue.

Yeah, its easy to make assuption when they just can't do it because of their limitation. If my aunt had balls we would call her my uncle.

Find me a single boss that fit a situational blue combo, remember that they have no damage type weakness nor elemental weakness and they are immune to every alteration. I checked, they at best can use 4 version of the same spell to do damage and spamming "low chance" skill in the hope it will instakill it. Such gameplay, much wow. But I'm maybe wrong here, I played it only the first day, capped it and let it rot because its useless to even bother looking for a rotation.

[Physic]

Yeah, its easy to make assuption when they just can't do it because of their limitation. If my aunt had balls we would call her my uncle.

Find me a single boss that fit a situational blue combo, remember that they have no damage type weakness nor elemental weakness and they are immune to every alteration. I checked, they at best can use 4 version of the same spell to do damage and spamming "low chance" skill in the hope it will instakill it. Such gameplay, much wow. But I'm maybe wrong here, I played it only the first day, capped it and let it rot because its useless to even bother looking for a rotation.

not at all. blue has interactive dmg spells.


sharpened knife combos with anything that stuns, which makes enemies vulnerable to stun, and some are, take big dmg. They have specific magic damage rotations while peculiar light is up. They have combos like dropsy to shock strike. They can set up a finishing combo with moonflute, various damagee buffs/spells and finish with self destruct, for tons of damage.

[Nariel]

not at all. blue has interactive dmg spells.


sharpened knife combos with anything that stuns, which makes enemies vulnerable to stun, and some are, take big dmg. They have specific magic damage rotations while peculiar light is up. They have combos like dropsy to shock strike. They can set up a finishing combo with moonflute, various damagee buffs/spells and finish with self destruct, for tons of damage.

And most of those are totaly useless against a boss because you just can't stun them, you can't froze them, you can't petrify them and you can't just kill yourself against a boss mid fight and expect your party to enjoy wasting mana on your dead corpse. But yeah sure at least you can do it on worthless trash.

[Physic]

dropsy isnt a freeze, its a debuff. And yes, you use different skills on different enemies. Also, a number of bosses are actually suceptible to stuns. and yeah, you kill yourself at the end of the fight, not in the middle. In a regular dungeon, its like 20-30% of its health. This means two blu mages only have to get a boss to 40% health.

[ReiMakoto]

i disagree completely, the only thing stopping blues abilities from dominating content is the fact they are level blocked or not allowed in content.

Blue would destroy, Eureka, High level HoH, Potd, dungeons, most trials and standard raids. They might not dominate savage raids, due to them being tuned to require peak stats, and negate most game mechanics outside of single target fights.

fact is blues dont need tanks, healers, probably have the most control in the game. They also have a number of powerful situational combos. These traits have use everywhere. Go play blue without a carry, and you begin to see how strong thier kits are. And this is only the level 50 blue.

We've discussed this with you on other threads but BLU would not dominate these fields as much as you say. Yea they would be powerful in dungeons, but not horrendously broken. It probably would be good in eureka, but eureka is also an semi afk zerg rush, where things die very fast, so thats not too helpful. Trials and raids theyre a decent support dps because of peculiar light, that is all, we've explained to you before that white wind and diamond back does not a broken class make.

Their kit is not that strong, they are piss poor tanks, and have one healing spell, see my post history talking to physic for further details on this.

[Mansion]

We've discussed this with you on other threads but BLU would not dominate these fields as much as you say. Yea they would be powerful in dungeons, but not horrendously broken. .

Wasn't it mentioned that RDM are more broken in low level dungeons because their base spell potency is very high for that level and they are not limited by slower casts like BLM? I think I remember reading that.

[ReiMakoto]

Wasn't it mentioned that RDM are more broken in low level dungeons because their base spell potency is very high for that level and they are not limited by slower casts like BLM? I think I remember reading that.

Rdm destroys low level dungeons, as they have strong aoe at a low level and have verthunder and aero which pumps out way more potency than any other job of similar level. Rdm actually just dominates level 50 and below, being the best single target dps and one of the best aoe.

[Valdegarde]

Rdm destroys low level dungeons, as they have strong aoe at a low level and have verthunder and aero which pumps out way more potency than any other job of similar level. Rdm actually just dominates level 50 and below, being the best single target dps and one of the best aoe.

Don't forget about Scholar on the healing end. AFK-Scholar is a meme for a reason. In fact, all of the 8 and 24-man clears done by a team of Blue Mages with great effort and lots of suicide have been done already with all Scholar (or all Warrior) teams.