Primal Drops for Blue Mage

[Keridwyn]

May have been before they fixed it so that story mode could actually drop the skill. That was bugged when BLU was first released.

Exactly this. We were doing it launch week.

[Hasrat]

Fair enough. Honestly, I can tell I may have made a mistake not trying to push through it all in that first week as well. I don't think it'll still be all that hard getting groups together for stuff, but at the same time, now that the rush is over, holding groups together or sticking with them for the whole grind just feels like torture.

[wereotter]

See i beg to differ at least with ffxiv no spell is missable whereas older single player games if you didn't know an enemy had a blue mage spell and was in a 1 time area or a 1 time boss gg start over to get them all. Now every iteration of blue mage has had rng incorporated into its learning process either through rng encounters or rng learning chance, with ffxiv being an mmo it had to adopt the latter did ffxiv take some abilities too far with rng chance absolutely yes.

Nova is the only spell I am aware of in the mainline, single-player titles that was permanently missable....

But even if I'm wrong in that regard, farming out all the generic blue magic in other titles takes less time than it takes to get MAYBE one primal ability in FFXIV. This doesn't make for enjoyable content, at least not for me.

[Crushnight]

Nova is the only spell I am aware of in the mainline, single-player titles that was permanently missable....

But even if I'm wrong in that regard, farming out all the generic blue magic in other titles takes less time than it takes to get MAYBE one primal ability in FFXIV. This doesn't make for enjoyable content, at least not for me.

Nova(ffX), annihilator(ffX-2) you had max 5 chances to get this per new game, Pandora's Box(FF7) due to a bug you only get 1 shot when fighting your 1st Zombie dragon, Trine(FF7) only 3 bosses have this skill. Rest of the series they've been good at not making them missable but if you miss early game abilities you have to jump through hoops to get them like the level abilities in ffV if you get to lv 99(at that point you are overkill but you know can happen) or goblin punch in ff9 wait too long and you got to go after a rare mob encounter.

FFXIV has gone overboard with the rng chance to learn i'm just glad once you know location of ability it never moves or up to chance to face it and up to chance(as in completely random there is no set way it will use the ability you want even if you wait 100 turns) the ai uses said ability (scripted ai does have its benefits at times :P)

[MsQi]

Nova(ffX), annihilator(ffX-2) you had max 5 chances to get this per new game, Pandora's Box(FF7) due to a bug you only get 1 shot when fighting your 1st Zombie dragon, Trine(FF7) only 3 bosses have this skill. Rest of the series they've been good at not making them missable but if you miss early game abilities you have to jump through hoops to get them like the level abilities in ffV if you get to lv 99(at that point you are overkill but you know can happen) or goblin punch in ff9 wait too long and you got to go after a rare mob encounter.

FFXIV has gone overboard with the rng chance to learn i'm just glad once you know location of ability it never moves or up to chance to face it and up to chance(as in completely random there is no set way it will use the ability you want even if you wait 100 turns) the ai uses said ability (scripted ai does have its benefits at times :P)

There was no RNG chance to learn in 5,7,or 9. If you did what needed to be done you got it (other than bugs). It should be more about figuring out what to do, not hoping for a rare drop.

[Crushnight]

There was no RNG chance to learn in 5,7,or 9. If you did what needed to be done you got it (other than bugs). It should be more about figuring out what to do, not hoping for a rare drop.

Rng encounter unless a boss, rng on said enemy using it and rng they hit the right character you wanted to learn it so yes there was rng chance to learn just no rng after the skill was used on said character. 3 instances of rng vs 1 in ffxiv. ffxiv is incredibly low rng chance but at least its 1 roll vs 3

[MsQi]

Rng encounter unless a boss, rng on said enemy using it and rng they hit the right character you wanted to learn it so yes there was rng chance to learn just no rng after the skill was used on said character. 3 instances of rng vs 1 in ffxiv. ffxiv is incredibly low rng chance but at least its 1 roll vs 3

Those RNGs are just part of the battle system of the games involved, not something built into blue magic learning mechanics. (Some of those can be circumvented though use of other abilities.) That's like saying the mechanics of a boss fight represent a short coming in the blue magic learning mechanics.

[Crushnight]

Those RNGs are just part of the battle system of the games involved, not something built into blue magic learning mechanics. (Some of those can be circumvented though use of other abilities.) That's like saying the mechanics of a boss fight represent a short coming in the blue magic learning mechanics.

But they are though you cannot learn blue magic in those games without going into battle thus any battle mechanic that can hinder it is tied to the learning process you cannot learn roulette in ff7 without facing the correct enemy which is a random encounter then you have to wait for it to be used which in older games random enemies have a list of abilities they randomly pick from and then you have to be hit by it so gotta make sure your character you want to learn ain't dead unless by the ability itself and then win the battle. All of that is part of learning the spell so yes they are learning mechanics just like you having to wait for Shiva ex to use Glass dance before killing her it is part of your learning process you don't abide by those rules set down you will never learn that ability/spell

[Anarnee]

I have a feeling maybe they'll buff the drops when BLU gets bumped to 60?

I hope at least.

[Crushnight]

I have a feeling maybe they'll buff the drops when BLU gets bumped to 60?

I hope at least.

can hope too i also hope Blus can solo all ARR content by then as well