Primal Drops for Blue Mage

[Yusuke]

I know this may not even be considered side-content for a lot of players but I have enjoyed the limited job that is Blu. That being said, the drop-rate for the Blue Mage Primal abilities are atrociously low. I mean terribad. Teraflare bad, even! The drop rate is lower than the pony whistles for cryin' out loud!

I think they have the drop-rates backward imo. I think the overworld mobs you get Blu skills from should be lower, considering the fact most you can solo and almost all of them are available on demand. Primal Blu drops should definitely be upped just a bit due to the time one has to set a side to form a party in PF and people leaving the party and having to start over from scratch.

I was running Shiva Ex with a group for about 2 1/2 hours and got nothing. The lyrics of her theme really seem to take on new meaning for me now "Wake up in sweat, full of regret, try to forget.." Yeah, that was us.

To be fair, these are understood woes and hardships of pony, bird and now wolf farming and is generally known to be par for the course. So I reeeally think SE should bump them up to the mount whistle drops, for the love! That's pretty fair. Those are still, by no means, frequently dropped.

Anyway, if anyone else feels the same way, plz feel free to comment.

[Rufalus]

Many people were long since tired of the old primals before blu was released, having farmed them for 5+ years for other reasons like mount, WT, helping friends, roulette, etc. To be made to grind them more than ever before for a close to zero chance of learning a spell when your starting point is already having grinded those fights more times than you should have to repeat anything in your life...

I don't think it's necessary for learn rates on those spells to be horrendous. Let people get them in a reasonable amount of time, and just let the carnival be the long term content part of blu rather than a torturous spell learning process.

[MorbolvampireQueen6]

Many people were long since tired of the old primals before blu was released, having farmed them for 5+ years for other reasons like mount, WT, helping friends, roulette, etc. To be made to grind them more than ever before for a close to zero chance of learning a spell when your starting point is already having grinded those fights more times than you should have to repeat anything in your life...

I don't think it's necessary for learn rates on those spells to be horrendous. Let people get them in a reasonable amount of time, and just let the carnival be the long term content part of blu rather than a torturous spell learning process.

blue spells are suppose 2 be near torture 2 learn ... thats y many of us enjoy blue mage it actually requires patience and farming effort

[MsQi]

Don't confuse difficulty with chance. Chance had little to do with blue magic in the past (V, VII, IX)

[Rufalus]

blue spells are suppose 2 be near torture 2 learn ... thats y many of us enjoy blue mage it actually requires patience and farming effort

Didn't expect anybody to strongly disagree with what I said. I'm not sure that 'enjoy' and 'torture' are compatible words, but remember a lot of people joined the game a long time ago (my actual join date 2012) and those primal battles are old content to these people. If you already cleared that Ifrit fight 1700 times across many years before BLU was even released, and then they want you to go back to it for a massive farm again with a lower chance reward than the mounts were, you might feel different about it. I think the primal spell learn rate is a bit excessively rare for no obvious reason and it's compounded by being linked to content that was long since worn out for legacy/ARR players. I did multi hour farms of Titan to get his spell, on multiple days, and saw the mount drop many times but never received the spell and then I gave up on it. Not worth it in my opinion until the learn rate is increased.

[MorbolvampireQueen6]

Didn't expect anybody to strongly disagree with what I said. I'm not sure that 'enjoy' and 'torture' are compatible words, but remember a lot of people joined the game a long time ago (my actual join date 2012) and those primal battles are old content to these people. If you already cleared that Ifrit fight 1700 times across many years before BLU was even released, and then they want you to go back to it for a massive farm again with a lower chance reward than the mounts were, you might feel different about it. I think the primal spell learn rate is a bit excessively rare for no obvious reason and it's compounded by being linked to content that was long since worn out for legacy/ARR players. I did multi hour farms of Titan to get his spell, on multiple days, and saw the mount drop many times but never received the spell and then I gave up on it. Not worth it in my opinion until the learn rate is increased.

i run levithan everyday well him and garuda and ive ran em since my first acc before hw.. be old or not they still slightly enjoyable

[Keridwyn]

I saw Nightmare drop before I managed to learn Ifrit's move. They could stand a small buff but nothing overly drastic.

[Yusuke]

blue spells are suppose 2 be near torture 2 learn ... thats y many of us enjoy blue mage it actually requires patience and farming effort

I here what you're saying my friend. I too enjoy a challenge. This, however is not what I would define as a challenge. The coil was a challenge. Running these self-same trials capped and at minimum ilvl would provide a bit of a challenge. This is drudgery for the sake of it. I am in agreement with what others have said. Make the carnivale the challenging content. Heck, we know they're going to add on to it. In addition, like a few have said already, they are requiring a grueling, punishing grind for the remotest chance at an ability to drop from extreeemely old content that very long-time players, such as myself, have run so many freakin' times, it's criminal. To make matters worse, more often than not, a couple of the Blu's will have to run as 70. So if we're farming the trial for hours and it actually finally drops, then we have to continue farming it for the ones that were running as 70 and did not get it. Needless to say, it's very likely we won't see it drop after that. I was once in a run and I saw the pony whistle drop 6 times... S I X T I M E S … and the Blu ability never dropped. Testing one's mettle, pushing your skills to their limit? Yes that would be called a challenge. And we have all proven ourselves and met those challenges with these fights too many times to mention. Chance? RNG at it's most insidious? No that is just cruel and unusual punishment. Now that being said, I'm not saying that these abilities should be dropped super quick. I simply think they should adjust the rate to that of the pony whistles. That is fair. I realize you like the lengthiness and the patience required vs a challenge but most aren't keen on "Hey remember those primals you grinded a googooplex times? Guess who's gotta do that somemooooore? "

[Deceptus]

I saw Nightmare drop before I managed to learn Ifrit's move. They could stand a small buff but nothing overly drastic.

Similar to me. I've ran shiva over 40 times (got the diamond dust to prove it) and have yet to learn glass dance.

Doing Titan I saw multiple Titan Ponies and Nightmares before I got my skill.

They need to increase the drop rate or give totems so you can learn the skill after 30 or so kills. This RNG stuff needs to go. It's not fun.

[TaiyoShikasu]

Three and a half hours of Ramuh HM yesterday. We went 2:3 swap at five runs.

Three people got their spell.