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    Quote Originally Posted by syntaxlies View Post
    on my server at the same camp i witnessed a battle bot that ran the same course in a triangle pattern that was farming sheep. I tried to kill the sheep before him to mess him up but he was able to target them before they even popped.
    a player is capable of doing that too, again, thats just suspiciong, its grounds to investigate but not grounds to ban

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheVedis View Post
    a player is capable of doing that too, again, thats just suspiciong, its grounds to investigate but not grounds to ban
    well this player did 10000 leves in 2 months and im not sure if thats even humanly possable
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    Quote Originally Posted by syntaxlies View Post
    well this player did 10000 leves in 2 months and im not sure if thats even humanly possable
    its more possible then you realize when you get 64 per day....

    again, what you are witnessing is only suspicious activity, we do not determine guilt, the task force does

    if the player is actualy legit, just 8 boxing it or something(even if they are future rmt in training accounts and such) that is not grounds to ban

    once they cross the line, get caught with the hack/bot program or engage in an rmt activity, now that is when something can be done

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheVedis View Post
    its more possible then you realize when you get 64 per day....

    again, what you are witnessing is only suspicious activity, we do not determine guilt, the task force does

    if the player is actually legit, just 8 boxing it or something(even if they are future rmt in training accounts and such) that is not grounds to ban

    once they cross the line, get caught with the hack/bot program or engage in an rmt activity, now that is when something can be done
    actually its the opposite my whole server has determined guilt and the task force is non existent.

    so many people have reported him and all they have to do is send him a tell to see that he is not even there. there is no task force.

    i don't know why you always defend bots
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    Quote Originally Posted by Signy View Post
    "Sorry GM, i left my little brother playing and he doesn't know how to reply."
    Isn't account sharing against the ToS? <.<
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    Quote Originally Posted by syntaxlies View Post
    actually its the opposite my whole server has determined guilt and the task force is non existent.

    so many people have reported him and all they have to do is send him a tell to see that he is not even there. there is no task force.

    i don't know why you always defend bots
    wait? im defending bots? im hardcore against them

    all im saying is players do not determine guilt, people look suspicious all the time and thats not grounds for punishment

    the task force DOES exist, ive reported and gotten several people banned, but the problem in the end is you actualy have to catch them doing something wrong in order to do it

    all the players on the server have no authority in proving guilt whatsoever, your accusation holds 0 merit in anything, and thats is the point im getting across(same as mine held no merit, but the person who investigated found something, and banned the players i reported)



    What it comes down to, is one day maybe someone wont like you, and he will start a campaign to claim you are a bot, and post false accusations, and if people like you have your way, you will be banned for suspicion and accusations lone, and that is why players have no say in the matter

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    Quote Originally Posted by Coldfire View Post
    Isn't account sharing against the ToS? <.<
    almost imposible to prove, especialy if you are on the same computer, which is another problem in itself, on another note, failure to respond to a GM is failure to follow their instructions which is a bannable offense

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheVedis View Post
    wait? im defending bots? im hardcore against them

    all im saying is players do not determine guilt, people look suspicious all the time and thats not grounds for punishment

    the task force DOES exist, ive reported and gotten several people banned, but the problem in the end is you actualy have to catch them doing something wrong in order to do it

    all the players on the server have no authority in proving guilt whatsoever, your accusation holds 0 merit in anything, and thats is the point im getting across(same as mine held no merit, but the person who investigated found something, and banned the players i reported)

    thats the way it works in other games



    What it comes down to, is one day maybe someone wont like you, and he will start a campaign to claim you are a bot, and post false accusations, and if people like you have your way, you will be banned for suspicion and accusations lone, and that is why players have no say in the matter
    well when there is no real task force and your complaints go to an automated form and you see the same bot on your server for over a year its safe to say there is no active task force. So your idea of who places guilt has a flaw.

    that's how it works in other games, not here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by syntaxlies View Post
    well when there is no real task force and your complaints go to an automated form and you see the same bot on your server for over a year its safe to say there is no active task force. So your idea of who places guilt has a flaw.
    what if they do invstigate your repotts? and find nothing wrong with what they are doing

    when it comes to these "farming parties" of 8 players people see i can easily see how someone can do it legaly, since there is no rule against multiboxing at all

    thats the problem, you have to know what rule they are breaking, and there is no rule being broken by 8 people being in a party on autofollow

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    1. design game awkwardly from the ground up to try to thwart RMT/botting
    2. break game, RMT/botting prevails anyway
    3. ???
    4. no profit

    square and tanaka awesome game, great job!
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