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  1. #41
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    i never demanded any thing i just made the post saing they were obviously bots we all know their bots its fucking obvious. pennies in the keyboard or not. any form of automation is bannable


    shit i cant even use the macro keys on my fucking razor keyboard because thats automatization software

    shit same foes for my mouse too
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    Quote Originally Posted by DoubleEcho View Post
    A reasonable person with a couple months of playing experience in this game could determine that these are bots. Why is it so hard for you to say "Yes this looks like a bot" when the evidence is right in your face? Just make a decision already, none of this vagueness.

    It's simple.
    TheVedis, with the evidence in the video, do you think they are bots - Yes or No?
    i have seen video proof of people being bots in the past, some of them actualy show a bot, some of them just show people doing something suspicious that isnt necesarily a bot, but its obvious the person posting it doesnt approve of it

    an example of a bot video, go look up the one on desperado, he actualy got a suspension after he was caught(not banned) and was gone for almost 6 months before he popped back up after disappearing

    something was done about him, just not what we expected

    there are several others i have seen banned for actualy getting caught(not video related)


    but if you show me a video, with 8 people on autofollow, and 1 person just going out and completing leves, thats not bot proof, you have to actualy be able to tell they are really botting, not just that you are suspicious of them and they "might" be a bot


    a good example, i shoulda recorded the other day, someone out at humblehearth hacking/botting mining

    i saw them gather from a node 8 times, then bring their pickaxe out and gather it again 8 times, then again 8 times, then again 8 times

    it was 100% obvious they were doing something illegal, thats the kind of proof you need

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    Quote Originally Posted by syntaxlies View Post
    all i can say is you could have defended OJ
    OJ was easy to defend

    as someone who actualy knows how the law works, he was 100% innocent under the system we have in america

    was he guilty as far as having actualy commited the crime? probly, but since they couldnt prove it, well, thats how it goes down

    In america, we do not punish people for what we can not prove, even if we know they did it, we still have to prove it

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheVedis View Post
    OJ was easy to defend

    as someone who actualy knows how the law works, he was 100% innocent under the system we have in america

    was he guilty as far as having actualy commited the crime? probly, but since they couldnt prove it, well, thats how it goes down

    In america, we do not punish people for what we can not prove, even if we know they did it, we still have to prove it
    if the glove dont fit, you must acquit.
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    Clearly those photos are of a group of very like minded close knit friends who are playing together. I am offended you would jump to such wild accusations. Those friends are probably all very sad and dismayed that you've labelled them as some sort of robotic player.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheVedis View Post
    Hi My name is Thevedis Foxbat. and i Support botting by defending Players that bot, and RMT.
    you might as well just say that.

    and you sure have alot of lvl 50's and your so well versed as to how bots function and do not function. hmm mabe you too bot and RMT.

    sure seems like you do, being as defensive about botting as you are
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    Quote Originally Posted by AngryNixon View Post
    Clearly those photos are of a group of very like minded close knit friends who are playing together. I am offended you would jump to such wild accusations. Those friends are probably all very sad and dismayed that you've labelled them as some sort of robotic player.
    the photos are suspicious yes, but they are far from the proof needed to actualy ban someone
    the problem is those pictures in no way shape or form prove someone in an rmt or botting

    its probly someone 8 boxing in order to engage in future rmt activity(which while yes will be ilelgal in the future, the way he is leveling them now is not illegal)

    and thats where the problem lies with this method, you cant ban someone now for what may or may not happen in the future

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheVedis View Post
    i have seen video proof of people being bots in the past, some of them actualy show a bot, some of them just show people doing something suspicious that isnt necesarily a bot, but its obvious the person posting it doesnt approve of it

    an example of a bot video, go look up the one on desperado, he actualy got a suspension after he was caught(not banned) and was gone for almost 6 months before he popped back up after disappearing

    something was done about him, just not what we expected

    there are several others i have seen banned for actualy getting caught(not video related)


    but if you show me a video, with 8 people on autofollow, and 1 person just going out and completing leves, thats not bot proof, you have to actualy be able to tell they are really botting, not just that you are suspicious of them and they "might" be a bot


    a good example, i shoulda recorded the other day, someone out at humblehearth hacking/botting mining

    i saw them gather from a node 8 times, then bring their pickaxe out and gather it again 8 times, then again 8 times, then again 8 times

    it was 100% obvious they were doing something illegal, thats the kind of proof you need
    That's 210 words in this post - 209 more than you needed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vassteel View Post
    you might as well just say that.

    and you sure have alot of lvl 50's and your so well versed as to how bots function and do not function. hmm mabe you too bot and RMT.

    sure seems like you do, being as defensive about botting as you are
    lol, how do you figure im defending them

    im not saying they are innocent, im telling you to prove they are bots

    if you cant prove it, dont get mad at me for what you are failing to do


    ive proven bots in the past and gotten them banned, ive done the legwork, have you?

    whats funny is you think im defending them when all im doing is not agreeing with you lol, are they bots? probly, but can you prove it? probly not

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    ohhhh please tell us what "legwork" you have done.


    ive filled out the forms on sqex's site i even made the post for all you to see even put in a little snippit of a video of said bots doing bot things


    so please explain to us what extra leg work you were able to accomplish.
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