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    Quote Originally Posted by TheVedis View Post
    im not saying they are bots, im not syaing they are not

    im saying you as a player do not determine that so demanding they be banned cuz you are the proof isnt gonna cut it
    A reasonable person with a couple months of playing experience in this game could determine that these are bots. Why is it so hard for you to say "Yes this looks like a bot" when the evidence is right in your face? Just make a decision already, none of this vagueness.

    It's simple.
    TheVedis, with the evidence in the video, do you think they are bots - Yes or No?
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    Quote Originally Posted by DoubleEcho View Post
    A reasonable person with a couple months of playing experience in this game could determine that these are bots. Why is it so hard for you to say "Yes this looks like a bot" when the evidence is right in your face? Just make a decision already, none of this vagueness.

    It's simple.
    TheVedis, with the evidence in the video, do you think they are bots - Yes or No?
    i have seen video proof of people being bots in the past, some of them actualy show a bot, some of them just show people doing something suspicious that isnt necesarily a bot, but its obvious the person posting it doesnt approve of it

    an example of a bot video, go look up the one on desperado, he actualy got a suspension after he was caught(not banned) and was gone for almost 6 months before he popped back up after disappearing

    something was done about him, just not what we expected

    there are several others i have seen banned for actualy getting caught(not video related)


    but if you show me a video, with 8 people on autofollow, and 1 person just going out and completing leves, thats not bot proof, you have to actualy be able to tell they are really botting, not just that you are suspicious of them and they "might" be a bot


    a good example, i shoulda recorded the other day, someone out at humblehearth hacking/botting mining

    i saw them gather from a node 8 times, then bring their pickaxe out and gather it again 8 times, then again 8 times, then again 8 times

    it was 100% obvious they were doing something illegal, thats the kind of proof you need

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheVedis View Post
    Hi My name is Thevedis Foxbat. and i Support botting by defending Players that bot, and RMT.
    you might as well just say that.

    and you sure have alot of lvl 50's and your so well versed as to how bots function and do not function. hmm mabe you too bot and RMT.

    sure seems like you do, being as defensive about botting as you are
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vassteel View Post
    you might as well just say that.

    and you sure have alot of lvl 50's and your so well versed as to how bots function and do not function. hmm mabe you too bot and RMT.

    sure seems like you do, being as defensive about botting as you are
    lol, how do you figure im defending them

    im not saying they are innocent, im telling you to prove they are bots

    if you cant prove it, dont get mad at me for what you are failing to do


    ive proven bots in the past and gotten them banned, ive done the legwork, have you?

    whats funny is you think im defending them when all im doing is not agreeing with you lol, are they bots? probly, but can you prove it? probly not

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    ohhhh please tell us what "legwork" you have done.


    ive filled out the forms on sqex's site i even made the post for all you to see even put in a little snippit of a video of said bots doing bot things


    so please explain to us what extra leg work you were able to accomplish.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vassteel View Post
    ohhhh please tell us what "legwork" you have done.


    ive filled out the forms on sqex's site i even made the post for all you to see even put in a little snippit of a video of said bots doing bot things


    so please explain to us what extra leg work you were able to accomplish.
    ive done enough thats what, ive gotten people banned, you obviously havent, thats why you are complaining about the system not working

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vassteel View Post
    you might as well just say that.

    and you sure have alot of lvl 50's and your so well versed as to how bots function and do not function. hmm mabe you too bot and RMT.

    sure seems like you do, being as defensive about botting as you are
    Dude, i don't think you've actually read what he said. I have, and I do not see him defending RMT's. Yes, we all know they are, but you can't prove it just because they all look alike, have funny names, and all click a leve and sit in one spot.

    All TheVedis is saying is that before SE will ban anyone they need proof. More than just some random tarus sitting in a corner.

    I never liked RMT, it used to be worse in FFXI, until SE cleaned house. They always did that every so often, when it was getting really bad.

    Also, keep in mind, without demand, there would be no RMT. So maybe we should pick on people that are buying gil instead on people that are supplying it, since they will always be there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheVedis View Post
    i have seen video proof of people being bots in the past, some of them actualy show a bot, some of them just show people doing something suspicious that isnt necesarily a bot, but its obvious the person posting it doesnt approve of it

    an example of a bot video, go look up the one on desperado, he actualy got a suspension after he was caught(not banned) and was gone for almost 6 months before he popped back up after disappearing

    something was done about him, just not what we expected

    there are several others i have seen banned for actualy getting caught(not video related)


    but if you show me a video, with 8 people on autofollow, and 1 person just going out and completing leves, thats not bot proof, you have to actualy be able to tell they are really botting, not just that you are suspicious of them and they "might" be a bot


    a good example, i shoulda recorded the other day, someone out at humblehearth hacking/botting mining

    i saw them gather from a node 8 times, then bring their pickaxe out and gather it again 8 times, then again 8 times, then again 8 times

    it was 100% obvious they were doing something illegal, thats the kind of proof you need
    That's 210 words in this post - 209 more than you needed.
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